You Couldn't Make This Up

chris c wrote:Pity the BDA didn't do anything to improve his health previously. Or that of all the other obese, diabetic and otherwise metabolically challenged people that never used to exist in such numbers.

Maybe cos they are to busy eating cake 

I remember a friend up in Scotland who went to a diabetes group when first diagnosed. He never went again because they spent all their times talking about cake. Meanwhile he went low carb and reversed just about everything.

On the other hand

https://twitter.com/KetoDocCLT/status/1047119166963163136

Harvard again

https://twitter.com/bschermd/status/1048578028949856258

https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1046280549164347393

https://twitter.com/jeandpalmer/status/1046279627403137024

fx: bangs head on desk and yells MAKE IT STOP

It's not all that long ago the BDA along with others were promoting healthy margarine's and low fat spreads containing industrial trans fats, retweeted by two carboholics Collins and Cashin

Yeah they have made such a huge impact on public health haven't they? I remember when I was young and everyone was fat and diabetic and otherwise ill. Now thanks to dieticians everyone is slim fit and healthy. Oh wait . . .

https://twitter.com/drjamesdinic/status/1052857308718477313

the vegans are out in full force

https://twitter.com/fleroy1974/status/1053398265817894914

fascinating stuff, thread still running

Effectiveness of plant-based diets in
promoting well-being in the
management of type 2 diabetes: a
systematic review

https://drc.bmj.com/content/bmjdrc/6/1/e000534.full.pdf

The results are abysmal, just slightly less abysmal than "standard care"

This is part of the ongoing fightback against VIRTA and all the other results which show huge reductions in HbA1c, reductions in medications, massive weight loss, etc. It doesn't look like meat is responsible for diabetes but let's claim it is and get on the front page of the Guardian.

meanwhile

https://twitter.com/TheNotDoc/status/1029031688058228737

Yes I think the reduction in A1c amounted to an underwhelming 0.55 fat lot of use to those diagnosed with high A1c's

The ADA could have studied some of the denizens of their forum who routinely made 5 - 8% reductions in A1c and sometimes as much as 13%, yes from 18 to 5. But they chose not to, for nearly two decades now. I wonder why that could be

http://www.diabetes.org/pathway/supporters/corporate-sponsors.html

Milk and Cereal In The Morning Can Help With Managing Diabetes, Study Says

A new study says milk when consumed with breakfast cereal may provide benefits for those managing diabetes.

A well-balanced breakfast of carbohydrates, protein and fats is considered key to starting the day.

“It’s important to include milk,” said Marisa Aguillon, a dietitian and a certified diabetes educator with Parkland Hospital System. “We tend to want to stay away because it’s high in carbohydrates. Carbohydrates tend to raise our blood sugar, so it’s important that we kind of be aware of how many portions we’re having of milk.”

http://www.keranews.org/post/milk-and-cereal-morning-can-help-managing-diabetes-study-says

Yet another dietitian trying to kill us 

They announced on R4 today diabetes in the UK is now costing a billion pounds a year!
Some of these PHE people must be invested in big pharma or have refined carbs as grey matter.
D.

graham64 wrote:

Yet another dietitian trying to kill us 

Just like my (and most other people's) "diabetic diet" leaflet

breakfast

a bowl of oatmeal with low fat milk and a banana

a slice of toast with low fat spread and no-sugar-added marmalade

a glass of orange juice

Today I had a thickly buttered oatcake with turkey (with salt and fresh ground black pepper) and a couple of cups of coffee, then I didn't need to eat for about 8 hours, because I was still metabolising the food from yesterday's meal. Imagine that!

You could add this DUK breakfast recipe too and only 63.3g carbs yummy 

Toasted bagels topped with fat-free cream cheese, grilled tomatoes and shredded leeks.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/recipes/tomato-bagels

graham64 wrote:You could add this DUK breakfast recipe too and only 63.3g carbs yummy 

Toasted bagels topped with fat-free cream cheese, grilled tomatoes and shredded leeks.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/recipes/tomato-bagels

Grrr


With thanks to 'Avocado Sevenfold'
This is so much better

Low Carb Pizza Bagels - made with cauliflower

Find the recipe and details on the Cauliflower Thread here

https://lowcarbdiabetic.forumotion.co.uk/t199p75-cauliflowers

All the best Jan

But the DUK recipe is low fat Jan obviously must be more healthy for us just need to increase the meds to cover the carbs 

Oh good grief!!! I can just about get away with 10g carbs at breakfast, I could probably do that in the evening but why would I want to?

I cheated a bit yesterday, I stir-fried some bacon, mushrooms, multicoloured peppers and chillies, garlic, olives and chicken in EVOO then simmered them with turmeric, cumin, coriander, cayenne cardamom and a splash of toasted sesame oil. I used some basmati rice to soak up all the juices. Not much, I probably get through a kilo of rice and half that of quinoa in a year and curiously I'm still not dead.

Read and weep

How to make snacks more interesting

Diabetes UK suggests trying the following ideas:

Use different types of bread to make snacks. Try pittas stuffed with fillings such as chicken tikka, yoghurt and salad. Or ciabatta or focaccia with mozzarella, tomato and pesto.

Toast a teacake and top with sliced banana. Drizzle with a little maple syrup if you like.

Smoothies or milkshakes are simple and delicious. Just mix milk, a fruit of your choice and a few ice-cubes. Pour into a glass and enjoy.

Pop your own corn. Flavour with salt and pepper, a little sugar, a sprinkle of paprika or even a little finely grated parmesan.
Noodles. Make up a 100 g pack of noodles, then add some other bits like spring onions, chopped ham or tuna.

If you can keep a broad range of snack 'ingredients' in your fridge and store cupboard then you should be able to create snacks that appeal to you out of your weekly shop.

[url=https://patient.info/health/diabetes-mellitus-leaflet/features/how-to-snack-when-you-have-diabetes?utm_source=PA_Newsletter&utm_campaign=118160_PA Newsletter 7th edition]https://patient.info/health/diabetes-mellitus-leaflet/features/how-to-snack-when-you-have-diabetes?utm_source=PA_Newsletter&utm_campaign=118160_PA%20Newsletter%207th%20edition%20A&utm_medium=email&utm_content=how-to-snack-when-you-have-diabetes&dm_i=4Q86,2J68,16IVZV,7V80,1[/url]

OTOH if you eat proper meals why would you need to snack? Well sometimes I eat various nuts, a thickly buttered oatcake or two with cheese, smoked salmon or turkey etc. but mostly to replace a full meal, not every couple of hours.

It's not going away any time soon

https://twitter.com/KetoHiking/status/1063269037528932352

https://twitter.com/LCHF_TOOLBOX/status/1058144613578534913

https://twitter.com/SBakerMD/status/1058065953697685504

And on and on . . .

https://twitter.com/stephniehancock/status/1063508052408705025

https://twitter.com/HelenlouWest/status/1065230936055455744

she's trying in the face of idiocy

https://twitter.com/alicemeallan/status/1065969994499014656

https://twitter.com/HelenlouWest/status/1060802112370688000

https://twitter.com/Nutradvance/status/1043169646457876480

https://twitter.com/SBakerMD/status/1045132941532319746

That's all for now, there will be more . . .

DUK's twitter thread announcing the tie up with Britvic and having to try and defend it after an onslaught of critical responses 

https://twitter.com/DiabetesUK/status/1065177825920131072

Hahahahaha I saw the beginning of the thread but didn't go back to see how long it was.

Another

https://twitter.com/JonUngoedThomas/status/1066603275749900288

and another

https://twitter.com/alicemeallan/status/1065969994499014656

Here's Catherine Clueless

https://twitter.com/RD_Catherine/status/1049265035699257347

the original thread is also worth a read

https://twitter.com/KenDBerryMD/status/1061311765697454081

Still more stupidity

https://twitter.com/HelenlouWest/status/1065230936055455744

she's trying about as hard as a dietician can and is being trolled for her pains

https://twitter.com/bulkbiker/status/1066003256357339136

Wonderfully polite Canadian put-down from Jim Johnson

https://twitter.com/JimJohnsonSci/status/1055243393847058433

Got to admire Helen West for her determination to present a caring side of dietitians (a rarity) and prepared to consider low carb for diabetics

Yes a few of them are coming out with the line that actually they never condemned low carb diets. Which is rather spoiled by all their colleagues condemning low carb diets.

Even Duane Mellor has admitted that low carb diets for diabetes may not be so bad. But then I saw the DUK on the BBC pushing the starvation diet of chemical shakes. Yes like that's going to save the NHS lots of money compared to telling people to eat meat and vegetables eh?