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Big push back trying to ignore the truth!
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Hypocrites they should consider why they receive such negative comments, I recall after they made personal comments about Aseem Malhotra they didn't like it when he responded in kind, people in glass houses
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The dinosaur is dead but still thrashing around.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43201586
Cue Alison Tedstone on TV. Not as fat as some of her colleagues but she does NOT look healthy. Carb face.
Oh yeah
https://twitter.com/ahhite/status/968661844138262528
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43201586
Cue Alison Tedstone on TV. Not as fat as some of her colleagues but she does NOT look healthy. Carb face.
Oh yeah
https://twitter.com/ahhite/status/968661844138262528
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Carb face Love it not sure our grain scoffing low fat dietitians will approve
Meanwhile: Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN)
Joint SACN - NHS England - Diabetes UK working group to review the evidence on lower carbohydrate diets (alongside higher fat and/or higher protein) compared to current government advice for adults with type 2 diabetes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/scientific-advisory-committee-on-nutrition#joint-sacn---nhs-england---diabetes-uk-working-group-to-review-the-evidence-on-lower-carbohydrate-diets-alongside-higher-fat-andor-higher-protein-compared-to-current-government-advice-for-adults-with-type-2-diabetes
And there's more
https://twitter.com/Dr__Guess/status/970082885989486592
Meanwhile: Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN)
Joint SACN - NHS England - Diabetes UK working group to review the evidence on lower carbohydrate diets (alongside higher fat and/or higher protein) compared to current government advice for adults with type 2 diabetes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/scientific-advisory-committee-on-nutrition#joint-sacn---nhs-england---diabetes-uk-working-group-to-review-the-evidence-on-lower-carbohydrate-diets-alongside-higher-fat-andor-higher-protein-compared-to-current-government-advice-for-adults-with-type-2-diabetes
And there's more
https://twitter.com/Dr__Guess/status/970082885989486592
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How can we pretend we never condemned low carb diets while continuing to recommend high carb diets? It's a step I suppose.
I put the SACN site behind my ear for later.
Meanwhile
https://twitter.com/bigfatsurprise/status/962903587843080192
check out the Peter Ballerstedt posts too
Meanwhile
https://twitter.com/TroKalayjian/status/970111764204589058
I put the SACN site behind my ear for later.
Meanwhile
https://twitter.com/bigfatsurprise/status/962903587843080192
check out the Peter Ballerstedt posts too
Meanwhile
https://twitter.com/TroKalayjian/status/970111764204589058
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And now the BDA it appears is spouting vegan propaganda, no surprises there then given their tie up with the vegan society
Meat and dairy products are leading contributors to Green House Gas (GHG) emissions (6) and other environmental impacts and emphasis should be on reduction of meat (red and processed meat in particular) and processed meat products (PMP)
in line with the Eatwell Guide (EWG) (7) and replaced with appropriate plant based proteins such as beans and pulses, and plant based dairy alternatives. The EWG support increased fruit and vegetable intakes, more wholegrain carbohydrates and
reduced saturated fat, sugar and salt intakes.
https://www.bda.uk.com/improvinghealth/healthprofessionals/policy_statement_sustainable_food.pdf
Meat and dairy products are leading contributors to Green House Gas (GHG) emissions (6) and other environmental impacts and emphasis should be on reduction of meat (red and processed meat in particular) and processed meat products (PMP)
in line with the Eatwell Guide (EWG) (7) and replaced with appropriate plant based proteins such as beans and pulses, and plant based dairy alternatives. The EWG support increased fruit and vegetable intakes, more wholegrain carbohydrates and
reduced saturated fat, sugar and salt intakes.
https://www.bda.uk.com/improvinghealth/healthprofessionals/policy_statement_sustainable_food.pdf
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Utter bollocks of course (I haven't yet read it, that was just an inspired guess). What about all the diesel and agrochemicals needed to grow grain and all the air miles and truck miles needed to import and transport all those foreign grown ten-a-day vegetables and fruit? And don't even THINK of all the vegan farts. Then there are all those industrially produced "plant milks", how much energy is used in the factories squeezing the tits on all those soybeans and almonds?
Meanwhile total surreality is reached
http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/political/political-news/jeremy-hunt-receives-patient-safety-award/20036231.article#.
https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/967495354273927170
https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/967505837869715457
https://twitter.com/cpeedell/status/967738565106061312
He wasn't born, he was excreted.
Meanwhile total surreality is reached
http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/political/political-news/jeremy-hunt-receives-patient-safety-award/20036231.article#.
https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/967495354273927170
https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/967505837869715457
https://twitter.com/cpeedell/status/967738565106061312
He wasn't born, he was excreted.
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Hunt getting the award is a sick joke he's presiding over a health service that is in meltdown due to lack of funds and a shortage of staff
Meanwhile in Lancashire some good news
The NHS finally catches a break as a High Court ruling raises the middle finger to Richard Branson
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/02/27/nhs-finally-catches-break-high-court-ruling-raises-middle-finger-richard-branson/
Meanwhile in Lancashire some good news
The NHS finally catches a break as a High Court ruling raises the middle finger to Richard Branson
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/02/27/nhs-finally-catches-break-high-court-ruling-raises-middle-finger-richard-branson/
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Uh-oh, yet ANOTHER site blocked by Opera, and Firefox reports an invalid certificate.
https://civileats.com/2018/01/26/eat-less-meat-ignores-the-role-of-animals-in-the-ecosystem/
https://twitter.com/DrCarrieRuxton/status/954363874865754112
https://twitter.com/PHE_uk/status/970963440184512512
https://twitter.com/SamFeltham/status/972067107482587136
https://civileats.com/2018/01/26/eat-less-meat-ignores-the-role-of-animals-in-the-ecosystem/
https://twitter.com/DrCarrieRuxton/status/954363874865754112
https://twitter.com/PHE_uk/status/970963440184512512
https://twitter.com/SamFeltham/status/972067107482587136
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https://www.diabetes.ca/publications-newsletters/diabetes-dialogue/autumn-2015/on-the-shelf/muffins-for-breakfast
Hemoglobin A1c Targets for Glycemic Control With Pharmacologic Therapy for Nonpregnant Adults With Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus: A Guidance Statement Update From the American College of Physicians
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2674121/hemoglobin-1c-targets-glycemic-control-pharmacologic-therapy-nonpregnant-adults-type
"Guidance Statement 2:
Clinicians should aim to achieve an HbA1c level between 7% and 8% in most patients with type 2 diabetes.
Guidance Statement 3:
Clinicians should consider deintensifying pharmacologic therapy in patients with type 2 diabetes who achieve HbA1c levels less than 6.5%."
Expect this to be rolled out to all doctors ASAP, just like what happened after ACCORD.
Genocide is painless.
Here's the previous version
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/736585/glycemic-control-type-2-diabetes-mellitus-optimal-hemoglobin-1c-targets
https://twitter.com/eatthebutterorg/status/949844676609216512
Hemoglobin A1c Targets for Glycemic Control With Pharmacologic Therapy for Nonpregnant Adults With Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus: A Guidance Statement Update From the American College of Physicians
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2674121/hemoglobin-1c-targets-glycemic-control-pharmacologic-therapy-nonpregnant-adults-type
"Guidance Statement 2:
Clinicians should aim to achieve an HbA1c level between 7% and 8% in most patients with type 2 diabetes.
Guidance Statement 3:
Clinicians should consider deintensifying pharmacologic therapy in patients with type 2 diabetes who achieve HbA1c levels less than 6.5%."
Expect this to be rolled out to all doctors ASAP, just like what happened after ACCORD.
Genocide is painless.
Here's the previous version
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/736585/glycemic-control-type-2-diabetes-mellitus-optimal-hemoglobin-1c-targets
https://twitter.com/eatthebutterorg/status/949844676609216512
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Not any better with the latest DUK Evidence-based nutrition guidelines for the prevention and management of diabetes
[url=https://diabetes-resources-production.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/resources-s3/2018-03/1373_Nutrition guidelines_0.pdf]https://diabetes-resources-production.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/resources-s3/2018-03/1373_Nutrition%20guidelines_0.pdf[/url]
Meanwhile at the BDA live conference one of the main speakers was
[url=https://diabetes-resources-production.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/resources-s3/2018-03/1373_Nutrition guidelines_0.pdf]https://diabetes-resources-production.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/resources-s3/2018-03/1373_Nutrition%20guidelines_0.pdf[/url]
Meanwhile at the BDA live conference one of the main speakers was
And there's more https://twitter.com/BDA_Dietitians/status/973967626505515010
Alpro running the show
Eat more whole wholegrains
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Are they all mentally ill or does it just look like it from outside?
"Current evidence is clear no one diet is clearly superior."
Well not until you look at trigs, HDL, insulin, glucose and all those other irrelevances. etc. etc.
I suspect a very slow pedalling away from high carb low fat for all, but so carefully they hope no-one will notice.
"Current evidence is clear no one diet is clearly superior."
Well not until you look at trigs, HDL, insulin, glucose and all those other irrelevances. etc. etc.
I suspect a very slow pedalling away from high carb low fat for all, but so carefully they hope no-one will notice.
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Mentally ill could be a possibility given their low fat diet and we know the effect of that on the brain don't we
Meanwhile the stupidity continues https://twitter.com/SamueleMarcora/status/974727640761454593
Lets put the blame on the fat content and ignore the high carbs
Meanwhile the stupidity continues https://twitter.com/SamueleMarcora/status/974727640761454593
Lets put the blame on the fat content and ignore the high carbs
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"I'm not fat, I'm big boned. Pass the pasta!"
They really do look to be painting themselves into a corner. The irony is that the Angry Chef railed against celebrities writing diet books and now he IS a celebrity and HAS written a diet book "but that's different"
https://twitter.com/BridgetteAllan/status/859760563022438401
https://twitter.com/LizMountford/status/873488965839486976
(I miss PharmaCEO)
They really do look to be painting themselves into a corner. The irony is that the Angry Chef railed against celebrities writing diet books and now he IS a celebrity and HAS written a diet book "but that's different"
https://twitter.com/BridgetteAllan/status/859760563022438401
https://twitter.com/LizMountford/status/873488965839486976
(I miss PharmaCEO)
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And you couldn't make this from two RD's up
In Defence Of Pre-Made Mash
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/in-defence-of-pre-made-mash_uk_5aafdc8ae4b0697dfe19087b?ncid=tweetlnkukhpmg00000001
In Defence Of Pre-Made Mash
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/in-defence-of-pre-made-mash_uk_5aafdc8ae4b0697dfe19087b?ncid=tweetlnkukhpmg00000001
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It's like two entirely different planets.
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chris c wrote:It's like two entirely different planets.
I'm from planet Earth not sure which planet dietitians are from though
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Duane Mellor wrote:That awkward moment when @bmj_latest editorial needs correcting, shame it suggests national recommendations don't include low carbohydrate and very low energy options, seem to remember the @DiabetesUK Nutritional Recommendations did this back in 2011 look https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-5491.2011.03371.x#support-information-section …
https://twitter.com/DrDuaneRD/status/981958668219506688
You will be hard pushed to find any reference to low carb on the DUK website, they do however give their blessings to:
Special Diets
Dairy free
Freezer safe
Gluten free
Low fat
Low sugar
Nut free
Vegan
Vegetarian
A carb fest at every meal is still the most promoted at DUK for T2s
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graham64 wrote:Nor this by our favourite diretitian
https://twitter.com/ion_nutrition/status/978009383648055296
Hmmm, a doctor who reverses diabetes live on prime time TV or a dietician who spent years warning diabetics of the extreme dangers of low carb diets, and presides over one of the fattest parts of the UK. I know where I'd put my money.
Meanwhile here is where the money from the sugar tax is going
https://twitter.com/zoeharcombe/status/976158649520459776
If this is a success they will tax meat next. If it is a failure they will tax meat next,
Then there's
https://twitter.com/GuruAnaerobic/status/968820337705091074
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New line from a dietitian if presented with results that show the patient has inappropriately reversed diabetes call them cheats
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Oh that's a very old line, the reciprocal of the one that states that if your health gets worse on a low fat diet you are failing to comply with it.
The fightback against health continues
https://twitter.com/FructoseNo/status/972806057595580416
https://twitter.com/WeDietitians/status/973025776302895105
https://twitter.com/FructoseNo/status/972945425211650049
and finally . . . he's back
http://angry-chef.com/blog/rise-of-the-ultra-foods-part-1
to be continued . . .
The fightback against health continues
https://twitter.com/FructoseNo/status/972806057595580416
https://twitter.com/WeDietitians/status/973025776302895105
https://twitter.com/FructoseNo/status/972945425211650049
and finally . . . he's back
http://angry-chef.com/blog/rise-of-the-ultra-foods-part-1
to be continued . . .
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