It's very hard to not feel guilty when I look at pigs tbh
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I am a huge fan of meat, but only as long as I block out what meat actually is
It's very hard to not feel guilty when I look at pigs tbh
It's very hard to not feel guilty when I look at pigs tbh
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Jeez you are crazy. Animals were made so we could eat 'em. (Yeh well I'm a farmer's daughter, aren't I?)
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In fact on thinking about it, I reckon vegetarianism is a higher form of human evolution
But won't/can't be one
But won't/can't be one
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You really are weird. What matters is the animal's quality of life while it's alive. Now I simply don't like many meats, but I wish I did.
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So would you eat a well cared for cat/dog/human?
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What's weird is killing a defenceless creature for our own selfish pleasure
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No, of course not, now you're being silly. Cows and pigs wouldn't be born at all if we weren't gonna eat them.......yum bacon!
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Andy12345 wrote:What's weird is killing a defenceless creature for our own selfish pleasure
You mean like fox hunting? Yes I agree. Although the fox does just that. It'll kill all the hens not just the one it wants to eat. However I have always been against fox-hunting and bull fighting.
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No I don't mean fox hunting
I mean murdering a senseless cow to eat a bit of its flesh, we don't need meat to survive, would it be ok to eat baby humans if they were bread for the job?
I mean murdering a senseless cow to eat a bit of its flesh, we don't need meat to survive, would it be ok to eat baby humans if they were bread for the job?
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Eating a living creature is barbaric!
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But the cow wouldn't have been alive in the first place. They are bred for their milk and meat. Of course it wouldn't be OK to eat baby humans. You are just in one of your argumentative moods aren't you?
If you don't like the thought of eating dead cows then don't. No one is forcing you to. Meanwhile I will enjoy my burgers.....yummy.
What do you mean eating a living creature is barbaric.....we kill them first!
If you don't like the thought of eating dead cows then don't. No one is forcing you to. Meanwhile I will enjoy my burgers.....yummy.
What do you mean eating a living creature is barbaric.....we kill them first!
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a cute little lamb, that is very happily bouncing around the field enjoying its life with its bouncy little lamb buddies, now we take it away from its mother, kill it by electric shock, rip its skin off it, burn it, then eat it with mince sauce? That seems like a reasonable action to anyone? No way! That's cruel and barbaric! Lions kill because they have to, to survive, foxes kill out of instinct, a fox can't survive without those instincts
Human being can live their whole lives without behaving like this, so we have to be doing it out of choice, that's the barbaric part, when we evolve further, we humans will not be able to accept we once did it imho
Argumentative? NO!
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Human being can live their whole lives without behaving like this, so we have to be doing it out of choice, that's the barbaric part, when we evolve further, we humans will not be able to accept we once did it imho
Argumentative? NO!
Lol
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I don't eat lamb lol
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i eat lamb and accept I'm a demented cruel asshole for doing it and will have to live with my decision to eat it, but that don't make it right, it can't be right, I also feel everyone else eating it as bad as me
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I know what you are trying to do here, I know what you are trying to make me say....so I won't say it.
If you don't think it's right then don't eat it. I just wish I liked lamb so I could eat it.
If you don't think it's right then don't eat it. I just wish I liked lamb so I could eat it.
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okie doke, I don't want you to say anything
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Oh so you want me to go away and shut up then?
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Nope, I don't have any wants lol
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You said you knew what I wanted you to say, I don't know what I want you to say so how can you know? Lol
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Well I thought you were trying to draw me into a certain kind of argument. Sorry if that wasn't the case.
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As much as I love my meat-there's lots that needs to change regarding how we treat animals from birth to plate and this article below disgusted me-some sick folks out there...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/02/halal-slaughtermen-suspended-after-hidden-camera-catches-them-taunting-and-abusing-terrified-animals_n_6599472.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/02/halal-slaughtermen-suspended-after-hidden-camera-catches-them-taunting-and-abusing-terrified-animals_n_6599472.html
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Yes obviously that's wrong....for the animals and us too. It's not good to be eating meat when the animal died full of fear. Those hormones aren't good for us, that's why I don't like halal or kosher, but it's hard to be sure how the lamb has been killed.
Of course I'm against cruelty, that's why I prefer the old-fashioned way of farming.
Of course I'm against cruelty, that's why I prefer the old-fashioned way of farming.
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Paul wrote:As much as I love my meat-there's lots that needs to change regarding how we treat animals from birth to plate and this article below disgusted me-some sick folks out there...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/02/halal-slaughtermen-suspended-after-hidden-camera-catches-them-taunting-and-abusing-terrified-animals_n_6599472.html
Wasn't good to see (that's if you could watch it)
We put a lot of trust in the 'slaughter houses' perhaps there should be more inspectors / food standard officers that need to go around and inspect ..... but guess that costs money and money is limited.
It is our own choice do we eat meat, do we eat vegetables ...... what do we eat?
All the best Jan
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I choose to be wrong and eat meat
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I choose to be right and eat meat....but not as much as you cos I don't like it that much!