Fat Fast In September

Paul1976 wrote:

mo1905 wrote:

Baruney wrote:Ban on the flog ends tomorrow. Have to keep at least one rolling ban in place otherwise would spend far too much time chugger fugging.

I was given a rolling ban too ! It's just keeps on rollin' and rollin' and rollin'.......

You were banned Mo??? When did this outrage happen??!!  

In all seriousness though-I was looking over there the other day and I noticed that mine and your profiles didn't have the crossed out username and 'Banned' under our names-Perhaps we've been pardoned! lol

It's a clever ruse mate ! As soon as you try to log in, Douggie turns up on your doorstep in his rubber outfit

I'm beginning to feel a little out of place here, I'm not like most of you

Morning troops

Well here we go then. A bit ott last night withbavtrip to Speyside and the carb cupboard has left me fuzzy and flabby so a pre fat water fast is a much welcome break. Not sure who is in on this one as @nomistheman has man flu at the most and @zand had the female version a while back. @merrylizard is posting on the flog as she's used to that format and layout.

So l am ashamed to say starting figures are:
Fasting bloods 5.8
Blood keystones 0.2
Weight 16 stone
Mood hungover
Plan for the day pffwf. Leg raised and iced. Lots of chores to do.

Good luck then. I'll be watching this thread with interest.

This forum is hard to find people in, there's so much going on. However, persistence has paid off, and I've found you now, and tomorrow we can get started!

My objective is to maintain as much function for as much time as possible, by keeping in moderate ketosis and low BGLs.
I will use exercise to increase insulin sensitivity, swimming and walking/running.
Starting weight 64kg
BGL 4.1
Ketones 1.1
Mood: optimistic
@baruney, keep icing.
I can post on both, surely? It is just that the pictures will not be here.
So, tomorrow, as ever is!

merrylizard1314 wrote:
I can post on both, surely? It is just that the pictures will not be here.

Absolutely you can!

As for pictures,if you or anyone else is struggling with adding pictures into posts I am going to write a short tutorial on the matter in the next day or so.

Cheers

Paul

So pleased, thank you @Paul1976. I am a bit of a duffer with computer stuff like this, like being blind in a maze!

OK I'm in for the fat fast. The head cold / man flu (as @Baruney so eloquently put it) seems to have faded enough now for me to risk it ... for a low carb biscuit - afterward of course!

I may have to drop out suddenly but, will endeavour to make sure that's only if I really must.

I will start with my usual full strength BulletProof Coffee followed later in the day by my newly devised Keto Bovril. More about that later.

Disappointed to miss the PFFWF but, best laid plans and that ...

See your posts the other side of sleep. Peaceful dreams to all.

Day one.
BGL3.5
Ketones 2.5
I was surprised by this, as I have been hovering around 1.1 ketones for a while.
Perhaps because I was swimming for an hour beforehand.
It is going to be a splendid day here, weatherwise, with a promised 23degrees forecast. So I will be working in the garden most of today as Spring is a busy time, agriculturally speaking, and if I want to eat more organic vegetables, best get some planted.
Now I am about to have some coffee - not up to your standards, @nomistheman, not enough MCT oil to satisfy dangerous types like you.
Catch you later.

Hey, it's fat fast day 1!

Weight 73.2 KG - stable over the last week (same as previous week's weigh in)!
Fasting blood glucose 6.9 mmol / L
Blood ketones 0.1 mmol / L
Expected to not be inky due to carb load day yesterday. Should be in at least mild ketosis 3 hours after my BulletProof Coffee.

Woke with a couple of "ack chew" and a touch of sniff snot city. See how it goes.

@merrylizard1314 it's quite likely the anaerobic nature of swimming raised your ketones. I usually have higher ketones after a run which is more aerobic. You've been burning fat for energy to swim which produces ketones. How do you feel? Bet your mental clarity is great and you're buzzing!?

Yes, I was a bit buzzy, and then I remembered my appointment with the cardiologist. I'm afraid he was really uncommunicative, his desk was positioned in that distancing way, confronting rather than collegiate. I think he was a process controller. He looked at the computer screen, so much, that I was quite superfluous to requirements. In the end, I began asking questions, but he was not an "explainer" when one considers that I have waited since February for this appointment, I thought it was a poor show. He obviously only considered the graphs and images, rather than the person, so when he thought he had finished, I was just beginning. I managed to find out that my heart is in really good condition, and my arteries have no endothelial damage nor atherosclerotic plaque- yet -and that was a good thing. The cause of the hypertension is yet to be discovered, and the only suggestion that he made was that I should double the dose of ace inhibitors!

Sorry, that was a rant! Will I be banned? Hope not.
For lunch, I ate 1/2 an avocado, quite small, with cream cheese and a few olives.
Dinner was scrambled egg and smoked salmon with steamed spinach and fennel. Afterwards I drank BPCocoa and ate 2pecan sandwiches.
That was 4hors ago. My BGL is 4.8 and inky 3.0
Hope you are going to be ok Nom.
Tomorrow I go to warm water exercise for an hour, and I walk back home from that, about 5km, or maybe 7km, it takes about 45minutes just walking. Usually, I vary my pace, to make it more like intermittent high intensity- 3 minutes of walking very fast , then 3minutes more normal.
I could be fooling myself about the effectiveness!

Morning Troops

Bright sunny day here in Saga Central - Little Ted's first day at Primary school - surprisingly smooth - no tears from Mrs Baruney. Quick flaff on the forum and then back to work.

STATS

Fasting Bloods = 5.8
Blood Ketones = 0.3
Weight = 15 Stone 9 LLb. 5 pound weight loss in one day!

GUFF

So fasting bloods the same as yesterday but don't expect them to rise like they did yesterday arvo (think the residual alcohol was suppressing it as bit of a rise later in the day despite being on a pffwf). Marked improvement on Saturdays bloods of 7.3. Aim - below 5 by the end of the week.

Blood ketones - Have been diet and exercise relaxed since the WCC 2 weeks ago. Will be happy to get over 0.6 by the end of the week. Over the moon if hit 1+

Have rested leg but either shin splints or compartment syndrome - off to see the doc this arvo to assess so can work out what exercise and in what timeframe is sensible. Went to see the nurse last week but as she said the shins are at the back of the leg thought less than kind thoughts and just rest and ice it for now. Def localised fluid buildup lower shin outside calf.

Weight - PFFWF yesterday - first one ever Glad I did it - wavered a couple of times and found myself staring at the fridge last night for about 20 mins. Tough cooking massive lamb chops and Fasolia for Mrs Baruney and Little Ted but somehow stayed on the water. Took myself off for an early magnesium soak and thought I'd drop off only to stay awake till 1pm. Anyhow was away from the kitchen so it worked.

Easy 5 llb weight loss - guess mostly water, alcohol and bloat from raiding the carb cupboard. Not going to weigh in till Saturday. Want to get as close to my bounce point of 15 stone (Have hit this several times in the last 4 months only to bounce straight off it - might have to plot a Fibonacci retrenchment off it!) by then and then a 2 week no booze period to get below 15 and then a Sober for October should see me through to target weight by the end of the year = 14 Stone.

Breakfast and Snack just now BPCs at 235 cals (1TBs butter and coco oil). Will go with this til later and try and have a meal with remaining cals and ratios

@merrylizard - perfect as ever. Do you have matching slippers to go with that rug?

@nomistheman - hang on in there - and seriously you do not have to bore the pants off us with your newly devised keto bovril. Let me guess..... Bovril, butter, Coco oil.

Got to run now - enjoying my flaff too much.

Still seem to have lingering "Sniff snot city" but, I'm toughing it out!

Digestive system has been rumbling, gurgling and making other noises - had a moment where I thought I'd become Sigourney Weaver's character in Alien. Yes, the noises were that weird!    Considering a MFFWF (  gives with all the accronyms @:Baruney) to give my digestive system a rest and also for my body to benefit from some autophargy. Perhaps start that tonight after EFFM - if it can be called a meal.

Pre morning FSBPC my Blood Glucose was 6.5 mmol / L
Straight after consumption my Blood Glucose was 7.1 mmol / L
1 hour post prandial my Blood Glucose was 7.2 mmol / L
2 hours post prandial my Blood Glucose was 6.5 mmol / L
3 hours post prandial my Blood Glucose was 5.6 mmol / L Ketones were 1.4 mmol / L - ideal inkyness!

I was shocked at the 1 hour and 2 hour post prandial readings - must be affected by this ManFlu stuff? Was going to test for Ketones at 2 hours post prandial but, given the Blood Glucose level decided to wait till the 3 hour post prandial reading. My wonderful BPC didn't fail me - it hasn't ever yet failed to put me in, at least mild, ketosis at the 3 hour post prandial point. :thumbs up:

So ...

I'm doing alright
getting good grades
the future's so bright
I gotta wear shades ...

It's dark in here ...  
Who put that wall there?

P.S. @Baruney - Nope no cocnut oil, MCT oil.

This morning BGL 4.6mmol/L. Ketones 1.8.
PPIEW, wouldn't you say, @Baruney? I don't have Tartan slippers yet, but hoping for some in December. How did the first day go, for Ted? All well?
So far today, BPcocoa and Babybel cheese. And I think I will have soup for lunch today.
Catch you later.

merrylizard1314 wrote:This morning  BGL 4.6mmol/L.   Ketones 1.8.  
PPIEW, wouldn't you say, @Baruney?  I don't have Tartan slippers yet, but hoping for some in December. How did the first day go, for Ted? All well?
So far today, BPcocoa and Babybel cheese. And I think I will have soup for lunch today.
Catch you later.

Well as long as your a good girl we'll see what Santa can sort out for you.

Ted loved it. Came and said goodbye before we had to go and all his new classmates now know that mummy's got a baby in her tummy. Well I suppose everyone on here knows that too now. Don't know where he gets it from.

Still getting tech issues from the flog unless I tor it and hide my ip in some onions so too busy to flaff with that for now.

Loving your numbers. Perfect as ever. Lucky you coming into the warmer months. Weather has turned here. Ted's school is at the top of a hill overlooking the ranges. Brilliant on a sunny day. Biblical when wet and windy.

Morning troops

Up in cockney town today and been up for 2 hours with a throbbing

Leg.

STATS

Fasting bloods 5.7
Blood ketones 0.5

GUFF

So shin splints it is then. No running, no racketball, no wine for the next 2 weeks. God it's going to be boring. On thre plus side may get round to getting some tasks on the to do list done and save a bit of cash.

Doctor I saw was brilliant. Correctly identified that shins are the front of the leg as opposed to the back (as the nurse did the other week). Sensible chat and he even congratulated me on my hba1c (34) saying good effort especially as done without medication - he hadn't seen such a reversal before (well you wouldn't if the hcps follow NHS guidelines) Doc before wanted me on satins? And diabetic nurse first shout was that newly diagnosed diabetic are straight on the metfartin at this surgery. Both told to swing. What I particularly liked about this chap was he was prepared to talk and educate in a 2" way conversation as opposed to being dismissive explain and print out test results even though that's whatbibwasnt there for. So next bloods I now know to ask for lipid profile not the auto default cholesterol one they do to get my trigs.

Anyway I digress. First full day on the ff. Hit the Cal's and ratios pretty spot on. 74 Cal's over the 1k and ratios printed below. Not as eloquent as @merrylizard or technical (some might say anal) as @nomistheman but good enough for government work (you see what Ibdid there nom.
Brekkie bpc, snack bpc, lunch black forest sauerkraut rolls and St agur crème salami lollipops for pud. Supper decaff bpc.

Full on supplements. Usual multi vitamin and fish oil but more of due to water in water out situ. Plus vanidium, chromium, coq10, l carnite, b complex, vit e, Bovril and mag oil (external). Bit excessive I know but cheaper than a bottle of wine.

If you've made it through that I shall leaveyou in peace with yesterdsys mfp ss.

https://i.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/08/17/35462610.png

Morning troops

Up in the big old smoke again and woke up far too early with a throbbing

Headache. Could be the fuel switch, could be being back to work?

STATS

Fasting bloods 6.0
Blood ketones O.5

GUFF

2 bpcs brekkie and snack. Had 30g maccy D's in the bag for lunch but didn't have the opportunity to whip my nuts out til 4 so decided to wait and have a meal when I got home. So as innocuous as this beauty looks a mere piece of salmon reduced my fat ratio to 84%. Not a disaster - will post mfp later. In the zone with just shy of 1k Cal's. No exercise to speak of just 7k steps in the city between apps. Was a bit sore when got home but am tempted by one of those Boris bikes if there weren't so many loons on the road.

Bumpers can't even see the catch of the day.

I will try an URL link instead......

https://i.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/08/17/20150924.jpg

Looks very like my dinner, @Baruney,
The format on MFP keeps changing. Why do they DO that?
Anyway. My carbs for yesterday were 6%, protein 10% and fat84%
Went slightly over calorie budget - 1012.
Bpcocoa this am. I find it less alerting than coffee, and I am usually fired up already in the morning!
BGL was 4.2 ketones 2.1
As well as the Fat Fast, I am attempting to ameliorate my sleep, in that I am trying to have more than 3-4hours a night. Been moderately successful, but one drawback is that the more sleep I have, the more I want. Don't understand this.
Practically, this means that instead of rising , with a gladsome heart when the alarm goes off just before 6am, I feel as though I could use another 20minutes or so. But my schedule does not permit this, so it is a small thing, but puzzling, as I have just had at least 7-8 hours.
By the time I have showered, it is of no consequence, but I still puzzle over the mood change a little.
Tomorrow there is another celebration in my family, and I will have to eat cake again.
I will do the BPC before and after, but I fear I will be not inky at all afterwards.
September is a cruel month.
There are five more cakes to eat before the halcyon days of October arrive, with not a single family birthday to complicate the low carbiness of Life!
I like the idea of Aqua jogging. I have seen football players do it at the AIS( Australian Institute of Sport ) I t really churns the water up, when they do it. Sounds perfect for you, @Baruney no stress on the front shins. Shame about the wine. Just get on with the list - you should see mine!

Baruney wrote:Morning troops

Up in the big old smoke again and woke up far too early with a throbbing

Headache. Could be the fuel switch, could be being back to work?

STATS

Fasting bloods 6.0
Blood ketones O.5

GUFF

2 bpcs brekkie and snack. Had 30g maccy D's in the bag for lunch but didn't have the opportunity to whip my nuts out til 4 so decided to wait and have a meal when I got home. So as innocuous as this beauty looks a mere piece of salmon reduced my fat ratio to 84%. Not a disaster - will post mfp later. In the zone with just shy of 1k Cal's. No exercise to speak of just 7k steps in the city between apps. Was a bit sore when got home but am tempted by one of those Boris bikes if there weren't so many loons on the road.

Great grub for sure, I see no scurvy on your horizon.

Hola @Merrylizard1314

I can imagine your list it wouldn't be short. Was reading an article earlier about having skin in the game and you've certainly got that.

Ok as promised the mfp. That salmon pushed the protein ratio way up. So was on track yesterday and would have got away with it if it weren't for those pesky fish. Mfp will change their format for the same reason supermarkets move food round the aisles.  Stickability.  If you've invested the time in something and get buggered around a bit but still come back for more and invest more time in it then you are on the hook so the theory goes.

Looking forward to increasing cals on Saturday.  Very simple food intake today.

I was "Out of the game" yesterday due to feeling like the excrement of excrement - just not nice. Figured I needed a carb re-feed to balance hormones. Although it was a bit excessive -see morning blood glucose fasting thread post - it seems to have worked. I slept well and woke without the need for the Sudafed. 

Jumping back into fat fast with both feet. 

I checked out your link 161 grams of carb in a day I wish I could hold your BG numbers on that carb extravaganza, my numbers would go through the roof. Your pancreas must be in pretty good shape.

Baruney wrote:Hola @Merrylizard1314

I can imagine your list it wouldn't be short. Was reading an article earlier about having skin in the game and you've certainly got that.

Ok as promised the mfp. That salmon pushed the protein ratio way up. So was on track yesterday and would have got away with it if it weren't for those pesky fish. Mfp will change their format for the same reason supermarkets move food round the aisles.  Stickability.  If you've invested the time in something and get buggered around a bit but still come back for more and invest more time in it then you are on the hook so the theory goes.

Looking forward to increasing cals on Saturday.  Very simple food intake today.

Now that is what I call a high PHAT diet.

Wow - a bit too much for me. Mind you I patented (in my own mind) a low cost sports drink for training last year and the link nom gave me have given me another idea. Will post when I've tried it but can guarantee that whovever drinks this brew will win any photo finish!

Anyhow I think I owe yesterday's mfp ratio's but still having difficulty on the best format to use to get either screenshots, copies or photos on the site but will try now....





Hope that works.

Anyhow that's just shy of 3 BPCs and 2 sainsburys mini salami stick boring I know but think it has to be hit those ratios at 1K cals - just by adding 200 cals per day then it starts to get a bit more interesting - say the omlette above fro brekkie without quite so much butter perhaps.

Today BPC for breakfast and then stuck in a meeting til 2 with nothing. So blew most of my cals and def ratios with a couple of scoops or peanut butter and a chicken thigh salad for lunch.Been having water, decaf coffee and bovril whilst on the PC working this arvo. Think that if I'd have been able to access water this am wouldn't have dived into what ever I could for lunch - lesson learnt - water! Will mfp it later - don't think it will be too much of a disaster.

@nomistheman - hold fire if your not feeling well - that's what @zand did which is the sensible options. If the 2 of you want to do another 1 in 3 weeks time I'm happy to go again.

@merrylizard1314. Hope all went well on the cake front. At the end of April last year I had to go to a high tea for 2 - took little ted along so he could have mine but they bought 3 of everything out! Bumpers - anyhow I went for it. Jolly nice it was too. Anyhow got home decided to test bloods mine was 4.4 and Mrs Baruney (non diabetic) 8.2 (was the week after the marathon). But it totally wiped me out - I had to go to bed and virtually passed out for 2 hours. Experiment not to be repeated - if I really want to punish myself I'll just go for 2 bottles of red here on in.

Love the lunch boxes by the way - I have something similar to put my nuts in (or pork scratching etc etc) you get the picture..

Oh yeah - stats - almost forgot

Fasting bloods 5.3 and blood ketones 0.7 - feeling good bit of a low feeling at lunchtime due to the extended meetingwith nothing  to hand. ted has been pestering me to play with him for last 20 mins so better go now - wants to go to the jungle and play knights  and then go to the squash club. Oh temptress with your booze discount for members and cheeky 250 mls of red lovlyness. Can I Resist?

Better had - again resting leg. No exercise today.