What was your fasting blood glucose this morning.

nomistheman wrote:

Baruney wrote:This pffwf is a bore. Have just found myself staring at the contents of the fridge for 20 minutes - God knows why!

Your TV is broke?

For the exercise when injured have a search for Aqua jogging! I've still yet to do it (nearest available place to Rochdale is Blackburn) but, lots of runners swear by it when injured.

Yesterday Morning
Blood Glucose 6.9 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.2 mmol / L

Pre bed
Blood Glucose 8.9 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.2 mmol / L

This morning
Blood Glucose 6.9 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.1 mmol / L

Pre Bed
Blood Glucose 5.4 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.1 mmol / L

Nom my man you've got to work on your funnies. Off to London in a minute but did you go from fasting Blood ketones of 0.2 to 1.0?

Baruney wrote:Nom my man you've got to work on your funnies. Off to London in a minute but did you go from fasting Blood ketones of 0.2 to 1.0?

You think that's bad? Well, you'll never get a good signal with that wok on the side of your house!

Fasting Blood Ketones were 0.2 mmol / L and went up to 1.4 mmol / L at three hours post prandial my full strength BulletProof Coffee. 

Nope Nom, defo dome work required there wok the fok?

Any road - you are accrediting your 1.2 swing to your fancy mct oil and coffee. What's the brand again? Have you ever compared the good stuff to the rough stuff?

This morning 4.6 mmmol/L. Ketones 1.8
Warm water exercise and was going to walk home, but only managed half the distance, as it was very very windy, and the air was full of Wattle pollen. While not a hay fever victim, it was a bit uncomfortable. So chose to use public transport the rest of the way.

Yesterday Morning
Blood Glucose 6.1 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.5 mmol / L

Pre bed
Blood Glucose 4.8 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.3 mmol / L

This morning
Blood Glucose 6.1 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.3 mmol / L

Pre Bed
Blood Glucose 6.4 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 1.6 mmol / L


Back to taking Sudafed this morning this weird head cold (just a nose like a tap) is definitely affecting my blood glucose levels and level of ketosis.


Didn't post yesterday due to migraine!

You OK @nomistheman?

Know you've got man flu at the mo but mojo seems a no go at the mo? Hey ho.

Baruney wrote:Nope Nom,  defo dome work required there wok the fok?

Any road - you are accrediting your 1.2 swing to your fancy mct oil and coffee. What's the brand again? Have you ever compared the good stuff to the rough stuff?

Dome work? You up on the O2 in Lundan?

I originally tried Dave Asprey's MCT oil (now XCT) which is very good and pure and not harsh on the throat due to not being chemically processed. It's expensive though so, I tried a few others. 
Oh my giddy aunt - there are some really awful ones on the market! 
I use IronScience MCT Oil the composition is as good as XCT Oil, it's not harsh on the throat, it's tasteless and around half the price! 

If it's out of stock - it often is due to it's popularity (speaks volumes) - I buy PVL Essentials MCT Oil.

Always wanted to try Dave's pure C8 MCT Oil Brain Octane Oil but put off by the reported potential side-effect of headaches. I heard Dave claim (on a Fat Burning Man podcast) that this stuff will drive you into ketosis very quickly - much faster than his XCT Oil. I just can't justify the expense nor the risk of a headache. Perhaps the latter is just a Keto flu symptom for those who have tried it without being Keto adapted?

@Baruney I'm fine.

Well, that's what I'm supposed to say, right. After all, as several of my senior managers have said (with their enlightened wisdom), we all have our problems!   

I just need to work on my resilience a tad more - it's been shot to pieces!

I'm still here though! Is that a good thing? Hmmm ...

Thanks for asking though, I know you're a genuine top bloke!

Well yes it is, if it's good for you.

Nope Tower 42 in good ole cockney town. Like your job but not the people then move. That's what I say but then I would wouldn't I especially to an IT guy!

Cheers for the links. Might try the iron science stuff but would have to be 4 times as efficient than a tub of ktc from the Gurkha to be of interest bloods and ketones wise, not to fussed on the taste.

Pip pip.

BGL 4.2. This morn. Ketones 2.3

Yesterday Morning
Blood Glucose 6.1 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.3 mmol / L


Pre bed
Blood Glucose 6.4 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 1.6 mmol / L


This morning
Blood Glucose 7.0 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.2 mmol / L


Pre Bed
Blood Glucose 4.4 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 1.6 mmol / L


Put fat fast on hold yesterday as I felt like an apple - rotten to the core.

So decided a carb refeed was in order to rebalance hormones. A whopping 171g carbohydrate of a refeed - kinda over did it?! 

No Sudafed required so far today so back on fat fast.

This morning
Blood Glucose 9.3 mmol / L 
Blood Ketones 0.1 mmol / L


Pre Bed
Blood Glucose 7.1 mmol / L
Blood Ketones 0.2 mmol / L


Stress levels are highly elevated due to people I'm relying on letting me down! 
So called professionals too! 
Where's Body n Doyle when you need them? Anyone got Cowely's number?

Hey, ho.

I have said here before I only test on one day a week these days. I am checking to see if my pancreas has gone out of wack. Numbers today range from 5.3 to 5.5 I have only seen fours on my meter a handful of times in over seven years. My metabolism is pretty much wrecked, much over 50 carbs a day and I am in trouble. Some type two low carbers can get away with more carbs and hold great numbers. But something to consider maybe. If we take for granted we all have a metabolism problem and if a person is young, maybe the best way to protect the beta cells is to go very low, and keep very low re. carbs to protect the beta cells. Only a thought.

Does anyone know how sensitive meters are in general. A while ago Little Ted dropped one of mine and you could only just read the numbers but it was def giving out false info.

I dropped mine on the hard kitchen floor this morning. Screen ok but just wandering if It's buggered too?

Baruney wrote:Does anyone know how sensitive meters are in general. A while ago Little Ted dropped one of mine and you could only just read the numbers but it was def giving out false info.

I dropped mine on the hard kitchen floor this morning. Screen ok but just wandering if It's buggered too?

BG meters can be plus or minus 20% according to the makers but I believe usually better. I contacted my meter makers  seven years ago (Roche) and they confirmed at low BG numbers a meter reading within one full point was the best we could expect. I have taken readings from the same spot of blood and seen readings one full point difference. That being said they are a very good guide for us all. And at the price good value for money, don't get me into a bun fight over the price of test strips.

Cheers @eddie - aware of the 20% acceptable variation. Was just wondering if anyone had dropped theirs and it effected the accuracy of that particular meter.

Have you got something short and sweet to say about test strips then.............

Baruney wrote:Cheers @eddie - aware of the 20% acceptable variation. Was just wondering if anyone had dropped theirs and it effected the accuracy of that particular meter.

Have you got something short and sweet to say about test strips then.............

The meters are a lost leader, hence the forum of flog gives them a way, a bit like ink jet printers. All the money is in the consumables, and kick backs to the forum of flog, nice little earner.

a bit like tanks and fighter aircraft then. But you still haven't answered the question and I don't want to get personal about this but....

Have you even dropped your meter and lost confidence in it?.......

Or anybody else - it is actually a serious questions - sorry about that.

Anyhow just seen @nomistheman log on - I'm outta here!

Eddie wrote:I have said here before I only test on one day a week these days. I am checking to see if my pancreas has gone out of wack. Numbers today range from 5.3 to 5.5 I have only seen fours on my meter a handful of times in over seven years. My metabolism is pretty much wrecked, much over  50 carbs a day and I am in trouble. Some type two low carbers can get away with more carbs and hold great numbers. But something to consider maybe. If we take for granted we all have a metabolism problem and if a person is young, maybe the best way to protect the beta cells is to go very low, and keep very low re. carbs to protect the beta cells. Only a thought.

When I started I was limited to about 15g carbs in the morning and about 30g by evening.

Obviously I significantly knocked down my IR. But to a degree this has been offset by ageing.

Today I am limited to 10g at breakfast but can get away with 50 - 80g by evening, and sometimes 100g BUT I only do that occasionally as I suspect repeating this quantity too often would bring back the IR.

Generally I keep to around 50g/day on average, with the majority in the evening. This allows a very wide range of foods, except of course for the Usual Suspects, and seems from lipid panels and BP etc. to keep my metabolism running sweetly. Oops, wrong word.

Then I have some headroom to deal with occasional challenges like eating out.

This is supposed to be much more dangerous than eating less than the Government recommended 230 - 300g carbs/day but I can't say I've noticed. The GP reckoned I "should" be on at least two medications by now, I reckon if I'd done so I would also have less than the recommended number of limbs. I suppose the Government recommendation there is three or less.

One big eye-opener (pun intended) came when I took mother to the hospital's Opthalmology department. A partially sighted woman was wheeled in, because she was missing a leg. She was so obese that the wheelchair wouldn't fit through the door into the doctor's surgery, so the guy had to move all his electronic gadgets out into a different room with double doors.

Eddie wrote:I have said here before I only test on one day a week these days. I am checking to see if my pancreas has gone out of wack. Numbers today range from 5.3 to 5.5 I have only seen fours on my meter a handful of times in over seven years. My metabolism is pretty much wrecked, much over  50 carbs a day and I am in trouble. Some type two low carbers can get away with more carbs and hold great numbers. But something to consider maybe. If we take for granted we all have a metabolism problem and if a person is young, maybe the best way to protect the beta cells is to go very low, and keep very low re. carbs to protect the beta cells. Only a thought.

Only a thought but, also, a well reasoned thought.

Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. Well, certainly not for me - you'd think with the name Simon, life would be simple? Oh, no! Not my life but, I digress...

I read somewhere - I may or may not dig it out later - that extended periods of low carb can affect our metabolism via playing havoc with our hormones. We humans are complex creatures after all.

Without 'banging on' and prooving @Baruney right I found by way of N=1 experimentation, that a low carb, carb cycling, and carb backloading kind of routine - i try to randomise things a bit - works best for me.

I will not go to the squash club and have a glass or red no matter how much you guys try and make me.

Baruney wrote:a bit like tanks and fighter aircraft then. But you still haven't answered the question and I don't want to get personal about this but....

Have you even dropped your meter and lost confidence in it?.......

Or anybody else - it is actually a serious questions - sorry about that.

Anyhow just seen @nomistheman log on - I'm outta here!

No, I can't think for one minute why a delicate electronic instrument would be damaged by dropping it on a hard floor or maybe submerging in the bath. Are you winding me up mate?

Baruney wrote:

I will not go to the squash club and have a glass or red no matter how much you guys try and make me.

Have two instead!

Eddie wrote:No, I can't think for one minute why a delicate electronic instrument would be damaged by dropping it on a hard floor or maybe submerging in the bath. Are you winding me up mate?

I guess it depends how 'solid state' it is?

If the soldering of the components comes loose or the Printed Circuit Board gets a crack in it then, yeah, it may be duff.

*Puts Serious hat on*
@Baruney test solution is your answer?

"I guess it depends how 'solid state' it is?" Quality!

Just done a BG reading one hour after a fair size bowl of green olives, chunks of cheddar cheese and a couple of glasses of Rioja. 6.1. Average for the day 5.7. Jeez this low carb gig is a tough life.