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    Got an invite to a clinical trial

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    Post by graham64 Wed Mar 16 2016, 22:53

    Got a letter from my surgery today informing me of a clinical trial I could possibly participate in  Shocked I've googled the study and here it is


    The study is a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled (corn oil), parallel group design that will enroll approximately 13,000 patients with hypertriglyceridemia and low HDL and high risk for CVD to be randomized 1:1 to either corn oil + statin or Epanova + statin, once daily, for approximately 3-5 years as determined when the number of MACE outcomes is reached.

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02104817

    Now I just don't know why I been sent the invite as (1) I don't have Hypertriglyceridemia last was 0.65 (2) don't have low HDL last was 2.26 (3) I'm intolerant of statins and it's down on my records
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    Post by Eddie Thu Mar 17 2016, 14:16

    I heard they wanted to do a study on you, to find out how high your pulse went, when it came around to your turn to buy a round of drinks. You have used every excuse under the sun to get out of paying. I hope they have a defibrillator on standby when you get the bill. mrgreen
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    Post by graham64 Thu Mar 17 2016, 23:08

    Eddie wrote:I heard they wanted to do a study on you, to find out how high your pulse went, when it came around to your turn to buy a round of drinks. You have used every excuse under the sun to get out of paying. I hope they have a defibrillator on standby when you get the bill. mrgreen

    How on earth would you know as you always vanish into the loo when it's your round the excuse of having bladder problems is wearing a bit thin now, I'm always left to pay for my pint and a babycham with a cherry on a stick for you Shocked   

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    Post by chris c Sun Mar 20 2016, 22:23

    Sounds fishy to me (Epanova sounds suspiciously like prescription fish oil). 

    Even more fishy is the use of corn oil as the placebo, I was just rereading something on the original Rose Corn Oil trial which found it INCREASED CVD risk.

    You should write back and tell them your current trigs and HDL and how you achieved them and ask to be studied for that.
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    Post by graham64 Sun Mar 20 2016, 22:36

    chris c wrote:Sounds fishy to me (Epanova sounds suspiciously like prescription fish oil). 

    Even more fishy is the use of corn oil as the placebo, I was just rereading something on the original Rose Corn Oil trial which found it INCREASED CVD risk.

    You should write back and tell them your current trigs and HDL and how you achieved them and ask to be studied for that.

    I'm sure their not interested how I achieved my low trigs and high HDL unless it was by means of pharmaceuticals no $$$$ in that Wink  

    Best part is they expect you to participate in a trial and only pay you reasonable travel expenses
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    Post by chris c Sun Mar 20 2016, 22:52

    Well at least you were invited and offered expenses, I was put in a trial without my permission or knowledge, or so I assume when they took me off the Losartan I'd been on for years and put me on Olmesartan for six months, then switched me back again.

    Send them David Unwin's number?
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    Post by graham64 Mon Mar 21 2016, 22:15

    chris c wrote:Well at least you were invited and offered expenses, I was put in a trial without my permission or knowledge, or so I assume when they took me off the Losartan I'd been on for years and put me on Olmesartan for six months, then switched me back again.

    Send them David Unwin's number?

    I would think there are lots of diabetics unwittingly opted in to trials especially of the latest BG medications that don't have long term safety data
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    Post by chris c Wed Mar 23 2016, 19:45

    graham64 wrote:
    I would think there are lots of diabetics unwittingly opted in to trials especially of the latest BG medications that don't have long term safety data
    Quite! And even more who are opted in to a trial of a diet that never works.

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