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    A high-protein breakfast induces greater insulin and glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide responses to a subsequent lunch meal in individuals with type 2 diabetes.

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    Post by graham64 Thu Oct 15 2015, 23:13

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    BACKGROUND: The previous meal modulates the postprandial glycemic responses to a subsequent meal; this is termed the second-meal phenomenon.

    OBJECTIVE: This study examined the effects of high-protein vs. high-carbohydrate breakfast meals on the metabolic and incretin responses after the breakfast and lunch meals.

    METHODS: Twelve type 2 diabetic men and women [age: 21-55 y; body mass index (BMI): 30-40 kg/m(2)] completed two 7-d breakfast conditions consisting of 500-kcal breakfast meals as protein (35% protein/45% carbohydrate) or carbohydrate (15% protein/65% carbohydrate). On day 7, subjects completed an 8-h testing day. After an overnight fast, the subjects consumed their respective breakfast followed by a standard 500-kcal high-carbohydrate lunch meal 4 h later. Blood samples were taken throughout the day for assessment of 4-h postbreakfast and 4-h postlunch total area under the curve (AUC) for glucose, insulin, C-peptide, glucagon, glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide (GIP), and glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1).

    RESULTS: Postbreakfast glucose and GIP AUCs were lower after the protein (17%) vs. after the carbohydrate (23%) condition (P < 0.05), whereas postbreakfast insulin, C-peptide, glucagon, and GLP-1 AUCs were not different between conditions. A protein-rich breakfast may reduce the consequences of hyperglycemia in this population. Postlunch insulin, C-peptide, and GIP AUCs were greater after the protein condition vs. after the carbohydrate condition (second-meal phenomenon; all, P < 0.05), but postlunch AUCs were not different between conditions. The overall glucose, glucagon, and GLP-1 responses (e.g., 8 h) were greater after the protein condition vs. after the carbohydrate condition (all, P < 0.05).

    CONCLUSIONS: In type 2 diabetic individuals, compared with a high-carbohydrate breakfast, the consumption of a high-protein breakfast meal attenuates the postprandial glucose response and does not magnify the response to the second meal. Insulin, C-peptide, and GIP concentrations demonstrate the second-meal phenomenon and most likely aid in keeping the glucose concentrations controlled in response to the subsequent meal.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25733459/?i=2#pq=iraHWw

    High carb breakfast  Question try a breakfast burritos courtesy of DUK  bitenails 


     https://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/Recipes/Breakfast-burritos/
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    Post by Paul1976 Thu Oct 15 2015, 23:27

    44.8 grams per serving!! affraid and that's probably low for a DUK recipe as well! Give me a good fry up any day! Smile
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    Post by graham64 Fri Oct 16 2015, 00:01

    Paul1976 wrote:44.8 grams per serving!! affraid and that's probably low for a DUK recipe as well! Give me a good fry up any day! Smile

    Sad thing is Paul DUK is still the place newly diagnosed are directed too and they would view the recipes as acceptable given their HCPs recommendations. Fact is after all the time I've been around forums and blogs most T2s have reported problems with high post prandials after breakfast, for DUK to promote toast, cereals and porridge etc is counterproductive to say the least.
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    Post by chris c Sat Oct 17 2015, 20:31

    Muppets all! 45%carbs is high protein???

    Yes the ADA used to recommend three meals of 45 - 60g carbs and three snacks of 12 - 30g carbs. Then they stopped recommending carb quantities but you could work back by subtracting their recommended protein and fats to find their recommendations hadn't changed any.

    Nearly all Type 2s and a lot of Type 1s find their highest IR and hence lowest carb tolerance in the morning. I suspect the same may be true of a substantial proportion of "nondiabetics" or should we call them "as yet undiagnosed diabetics"?

    I'm limited to about 10g carbs at breakfast and eat relatively high protein then which keeps me going usually until evening. Breakfast cereal had me face down in the carbs again a couple of hours later desperately trying to offset a hypo following the initial hyper.

    They should try it again with a GENUINE low carb high protein breakfast, oh but then they may come up with an unacceptable result like a massive improvement in all following measures.
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    Post by graham64 Sat Oct 17 2015, 23:36

    chris c wrote:Nearly all Type 2s and a lot of Type 1s find their highest IR and hence lowest carb tolerance in the morning. I suspect the same may be true of a substantial proportion of "nondiabetics" or should we call them "as yet undiagnosed diabetics"?

    You and I know that and most T2s who use a meter do too and yet the advice is still to eat a breakfast high in carbs, we are in the minority most don't have access to a testing kit and are ignorant of the effects of a "healthy" DUK breakfast for diabetics.
    Still must keep their corporate sponsors happy Mad
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    Post by chris c Mon Oct 19 2015, 16:41

    Some insulin pumpers are also aware of this and may have widely varying basal rates from morning to evening (perversely some Type 1s and a few Type 2s have the opposite pattern where IR increases through the day). Yes the only way to discover this is by testing for yourself.

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