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    Post by Eddie Fri Sep 04 2015, 11:26

    "So your 5% figure is pretty accurate but what you havent taken into account is that only a minute number of those 3250,000 actually eat a very low carb diet, I dont know the numbers and I doubt that anyone else does but it is going to be a very very small percentage indeed probably somewhere around a quarter of a percent as the vast majority of diabetics are able to and do eat breads of one description or another." from the flog 40 minutes ago.

    The number of low carbing UK diabetics is probably low at the present time, and probably the main reason 93% of type one diabetics fail to get to a safe HBA1c number and why the data for type two diabetics is also lamentable. Was it not only a week ago Sid was informing the forum. he lost a shed load of weight, reduced his insulin resistance, and dumped injecting insulin by err...a strict low carb diet, as can be seen here.

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    Results for England. The National Diabetes Audit 2010-2011

    Percentage of registered Type 1 patients in England

    HbA1c > 6.5% (48 mmol/mol) = 92.6%
    HbA1c > 7.5% (58 mmol/mol) = 71.3%
    HbA1c > 10.0% (86 mmol/mol) = 18.1%

    Percentage of registered Type 2 patients in England

    HbA1c > 6.5% (48 mmol/mol = 72.5%
    HbA1c > 7.5% (58 mmol/mol) = 32.6%
    HbA1c >10.0% (86 mmol/mol) = 6.8%

    These results are very similar to those obtained in previous NHS audits over the past 10 years. It should be remembered the number of diabetics has increased markedly over the last few years and no improvements are being reported, except by the low carbers. Who report infinitely better blood glucose control, improved lipid profiles, greatly reduced medication, many on no diabetes medication and reduction in weight when required.

    Where does he get his "a quarter of a percent" from? Phoenix. Clearly Sid's descent into complete mental oblivion is increasing at an ever growing pace.
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    Post by Eddie Fri Sep 04 2015, 13:30

    Well done Zand  clap

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    Post by chris c Fri Sep 04 2015, 20:00

    Could be a good business opportunity for Hovis, take out the carbs and then charge extra, like decaf coffee.

    Diabetics elsewhere have been known to rave about Burgen Soy and Linseed bread, but I have some misgivings about soy. I do eat ground flaxseeds though.

    Didn't the great Fergus make low carb bread?

    Frankly I too wouldn't bother eating it.
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    Post by zand Fri Sep 04 2015, 20:08

    Burgen bread didn't seem to help me. I was left with carb cravings. The only bread I can have at all is LIDL high protein rolls. 10g carbs each, but a whole one is a huge meal for me as they are so filling and I usually have just half of one. It does make me feel more normal on a day out because I can have a home made sandwich now with no ill effects.
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    Post by Eddie Fri Sep 04 2015, 20:11

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    Post by mo1905 Fri Sep 04 2015, 21:14

    Sid is a bloody bell-end, nuff said !
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    Post by zand Fri Sep 04 2015, 21:21

    Eddie wrote:Check this out. Make your own low carb  bread.

    http://thelowcarbdiabetic.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/make-your-own-lowcarb-bread.html

    Looks delicious. It's not something I will be rushing to make though as I don't eat enough bread to make it worth it. I haven't really eaten much bread for years, even before diagnosis. A few rolls in the freezer 'just in case' suit me fine. There's lots of other recipes on this forum that I need to try first before I attempt bread making......A cauli pizza for one! A deal is a deal as @Jan1 said. Smile Shocked
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    Post by Two Collies Fri Sep 04 2015, 23:59

    Eddie wrote:Check this out. Make your own low carb  bread.

    http://thelowcarbdiabetic.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/make-your-own-lowcarb-bread.html

    definately one for the "technical challenge" for the next "British Bake-Off" when they can do a REAL "* Free" week!
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    Post by zand Sat Sep 05 2015, 15:38

    Oh my word !  What on earth was Sid talking about today then?

    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/saturated-fats-no-longer-deadly-bmj.83420/page-2

    First he tries to goad Dr Unwin into breaking forum rules (that should be a warning for trying to set someone else up, surely?)

    Then he says the 5 of us who answered him were aggressive!  I don't read any aggression in any of the posts, just common sense.  He tagged the five of us trying to start a fight with us for having the nerve to answer his nasty post!  How low is that?  

    He thinks of himself as a moderate member!!!  rofl

    Then he has the audacity to tell someone they are a name caller when she has simply used the name he chose for himself  - Bonkers! He tells her that "Name calling just reflects on your intellect not mine Smile "

    Nothing constructive in the thread by him at all, just a nasty swipe at those of us who were supporting an HCP who has worked hard to help diabetics.
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    Post by Paul1976 Sat Sep 05 2015, 15:51

    Bonkers is getting worse with his bear baiting! He's all about shit stirring-plain and simple! Mr Panesar needs to know what his 'VIP' members such as bonkers are really like if he doesn't want all the members he has left to walk considering a business without punters or people putting the work in for free ain't too lucrative I reckon!

    Don't suppose you fancy doing another podcast with Jimmy again do you @Eddie ? Seemed to work like a charm when you did your last one that resulted in the dreaded Cugila being fired! Question
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    Post by Eddie Sat Sep 05 2015, 15:53

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    Post by Paul1976 Sat Sep 05 2015, 16:25

    I see someone named 'A.Moderator' lol has edited Sidney's post although all they did was remove the tag to dannyw that was with the others who Sid accused of being aggressive! Beam me up scotty!! beammeupscotty
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    Post by zand Sat Sep 05 2015, 16:33

    Well since my own name is still on that list I'd like to know what dannyw has that I don't?! popcorn
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    Post by Paul1976 Sat Sep 05 2015, 16:35

    zand wrote:Well since my own name is still on that list I'd like to know what dannyw has that I don't?!   popcorn  

    lol I don't know but Sid has lost the plot big time now...Everyone he tagged had replied politely with fact,what a sad bitter man he is!
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    Post by Paul1976 Sat Sep 05 2015, 17:09

    Looks this member has worked out how Sid operates too...

    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/saturated-fats-no-longer-deadly-bmj.83420/page-3#post-938410

    Edit: Mass post deletions have happened including the one in my link,although a load of Sid's dross has gone too! cheers
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    Post by Eddie Sat Sep 05 2015, 17:43

    OK I have to fess up, Sid Bonkers is a fantastic asset for us low carbers, very few have done more to progress our cause. Think about it. 1. Who other than a complete imbecile would take his portion control and low fat rants seriously? 2. Who could more clearly illustrate the corruption of the DCUK mods and management, when he is allowed to break the forum rules with almost every post, but remains un-censored  year after year. Do not forget, others have received warnings and threats of bans merely for posting + 1 after reading a good post they agree with. 3. Who has given us more fun and entertainment over the years other than Sid.

    Never in my years of reading posts on forums have I ever come across a bigger buffoon, it would make my day if he joined our forum, but he won’t, because he is a gutless lying bully, who hides in the shadows, hiding behind corrupt and idiotic mods. A flog member got it right today, since deleted.

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    Last word to the Bonkers one, a man who has been involved in more bullying, thread locking, post deletion and banning of low carb members than most of the mutants put together. It is because of Sid and his cohorts so many "moderate posters do not bother posting any more" No problem for the owners of the flog, not when your forum is a mailshot list for marketing and sales activities. Even the banned members receive the sales blurb on a regular basis, to the owners I suspect it is all a numbers game, as most selling is.

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    Post by zand Sat Sep 05 2015, 17:50

    What really irritates me is there are sometimes questions from people who would like to try low GI or maybe have T2 which was steroid induced. I don't often see Sid joining in those threads to help, but as soon as there is a half decent LCHF thread going he sets out to disrupt it.
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    Post by Eddie Sat Sep 05 2015, 18:00

    zand wrote:What really irritates me is there are sometimes questions from people who would like to try low GI or maybe have T2 which was steroid induced.  I don't often see Sid joining in those threads to help, but as soon as there is a half decent LCHF thread going he sets out to disrupt it.  

    Maybe he has a fruit machine handle on the side of his head. Someone pulls the handle and the outcome is unpredictable, although almost always dross.
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    Post by Paul1976 Sat Sep 05 2015, 18:08

    One of the deleted posts from a member that worked out how Sid really operates...Very quickly deleted by the mods.

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    Post by Paul1976 Sat Sep 05 2015, 18:11

    Eddie wrote:
    zand wrote:What really irritates me is there are sometimes questions from people who would like to try low GI or maybe have T2 which was steroid induced.  I don't often see Sid joining in those threads to help, but as soon as there is a half decent LCHF thread going he sets out to disrupt it.  

    Maybe he has a fruit machine handle on the side of his head. Someone pulls the handle and the outcome is unpredictable, although almost always dross.  

    Fruit machine handle? LOL Sounds about right as most of Sid's 'Payouts' are Lemons! Twisted Evil
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    Post by chris c Sat Sep 05 2015, 22:28

    Sid is a bot written by two 14 year old schoolboys.

    Phoenix is a bot written by two PhD students.

    The Patty Siri-Tarino paper is quite well known. OK it's a metastudy but a pretty well done one, and is interesting for being coauthored by Frank Hu from Harvard, who coauthored a lot of the Framingham studies, and Ron Krauss, past president of the AHA, who has put a lot of time and effort into carefully unpicking the Lipid Hypothesis.

    I read that Hu had dissociated himself from the results at one stage, which makes him (or Harvard/Walt Willett) look a tad foolish when you look at the less well known but equally well done metastudy by Andrew Mente (link is to PDF).

    Also when you look at thousands of years of evolution during which time we failed to become extinct.

    Trans fats OTOH haven't been around for long and are usually associated with high Omega 6 processed seed oils which haven't been around that long in current quantities either.

    What's MOST suspicious is that the same people who tell you brown bread is significantly different from white bread, which anyone with a glucometer and half a brain soon finds out isn't true, are the selfsame people who tell you "red and processed meat" and "saturated and trans fats" are exactly the same.

    Even different sat fats have significantly different metabolic outcomes. And fat in the absence of excess carbs is metabolised quite differently from fat in their presence.

    Most ironic of all, the body happily converts all excess food, including carbs, into saturated fat for storage. Is it trying to kill us??? A paper I read recently by Richard Feinman shows HIGHER levels of sat fat in the blood of people on a high carb diet than on a high fat diet, obviously because in the presence of excess glucose it isn't being metabolised.

    Finally it seems the (saturated) fat causes disease myth is finally being laid to rest by more and more research. The dinosaur has its head cut off but is still running around desperately stamping on people (image from Kendrick)
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    Post by graham64 Sat Sep 05 2015, 23:21

    The threads still alive and with spiker taking on SunnyExpat it's livening up guns Love the comment from AndBreathe "Is your name Douglas, perchance?" bring on the pot noodles  lol!
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    Post by graham64 Sun Sep 06 2015, 00:02

    Sid is the King Canute of the low carb anti's trying in vain to stem the tide of of the good news, but as we know it's apparent his irrational arguments stem from anger management issues. 
    Perhaps he would be better enrolling for Henry Nutloopers  Anger Managament course freakout  

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    Post by Paul1976 Sun Sep 06 2015, 00:24

    graham64 wrote:Sid is the King Canute of the low carb anti's trying in vain to stem the tide of of the good news, but as we know it's apparent his irrational arguments stem from anger management issues. 
    Perhaps he would be better enrolling for Henry Nutloopers  Anger Managament course freakout  

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    HaHaHaHa!! rofl
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    Post by Paul1976 Sun Sep 06 2015, 00:27

    graham64 wrote:The threads still alive and with spiker taking on SunnyExpat it's livening up guns Love the comment from AndBreathe "Is your name Douglas, perchance?" bring on the pot noodles  lol!

    LOL!! SunnyExpat eh? Could it be our 'Favourite' frogman has swam away to warmer waters? bitenails lol!

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