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    Pol Pot Noodle Kamikaze Attack on the NHS

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    Post by JohnWilson Sun Aug 24 2014, 20:39

    Introduction
    In this post we provide
    1. A specific example of a Pol Pot noodle kamikaze attack on the NHS.
    2. Indirect evidence via HbA1c levels that such attacks must be widespread.
    3. Direct evidence of the effects of such attacks on the individuals concerned and the NHS.
    The quantitative data for the post are taken from the National Diabetes Audit 2011-2012.

    http://www.hscic.gov.uk/catalogue/PUB12421/nati-diab-audi-11-12-care-proc-rep.pdf
    http://www.hscic.gov.uk/catalogue/PUB12738/nati-diab-audi-11-12-mort-comp-rep.pdf

    Specific Example of a Pol Pot Noodle Kamikaze Attack on the NHS.
    It is well known that carbohydrates cause blood glucose levels to rise and that exposure to high blood glucose levels may lead to diabetic health complications. Consider now the following statements [my italics] from:

    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/low-carb-didnt-work-for-me.62717/page-7#post-611949

    “So, a diet of Pot Noodle, Instant porridge, cup a soup, toast, maybe fruit, or fish or burger, and chips”.

    “Prawns in a bubbly type batter, prawns in a crispy batter, duck pancakes with plum sauce, balti samosas, duck skewers in a sweet sauce, curry chicken bites, breadcrumb battered mozzarella. Char siu and sweet chilli sauce. So, my BS crept up for a while, peaked at 11.3 at three hours, then fell to 8.5 after 5 hours”.

    Keep this up and it will be “Sayonara”. In the next section we shall investigate the extent of such Pol Pot noodle kamikaze attacks on the NHS.

    Widespread Evidence of Pol Pot Noodle Kamikaze Attacks on the NHS.
    The NICE Clinical Guidelines provide targets for HbA1c (it should be noted that many of us consider these targets to be too high!). The targets are:
    For Type 2: HbA1c < 48 mmol/mol.
    For Type 1: HbA1c < 58 mmol/mol.

    Table 1 provides the NHS results for diabetics in England and Wales.

                           Table 1 NHS HbA1c Results
    Target                        % Type 1 % Type 2
    HbA1c < 48 mmol/mol               7           26
    HbA1c < 58 mmol/mol             27           66

    It can be seen only a minority of diabetics reach the NICE guidelines and, therefore, the majority are in danger of inflicting Pol Pot noodle kamikaze attacks on themselves and the NHS. In the next section we shall investigate the current extent of such Pol Pot noodle kamikaze attacks on the individuals concerned and the NHS.

    Current Extent of Pol Pot Noodle Kamikaze Attacks on the Individuals and the NHS.
    If a diabetic has prolonged periods with higher than normal blood glucose levels there is increased risk of health complications and pre-mature death. These health complications include:
    1. Angina – Chest pain due to temporary restriction in blood supply to the heart muscle.
    2. Myocardial Infarction – Heart attack due to the interruption of blood supply to a part of the heart, causing heart cells to die.
    3. Heart Failure – Due to the heart not maintaining blood flow sufficient to meet the needs of the body.
    4. Stroke – The rapid, permanent loss of brain function following disturbance in blood supply to the brain.
    5. Major Amputation – Surgical removal of the leg above the ankle.
    6. Minor Amputation – Surgical removal of toes or a part of the foot below the ankle.
    7. Renal Replacement Therapy (RRT) – Life-supporting treatments (dialysis and transplantation) required to treat end stage kidney
      disease (ESKD).
    8. Retinopathy Treatment – Treatment for sight threatening diabetic damage to the back of the eye.
    9. Diabetic Ketoacidosis – Severe lack of insulin means the body cannot use glucose for energy and the body starts to break down other
      body tissue as an alternative energy source.

    Table 2 provides an authoritative and comprehensive picture of the extent of the hospitalised complications of diabetics and the additional risk over and above that of the general population admitted to hospitals in England and Wales between April 2010 and March 2012.

             Table 2 Hospital Admissions and % Added Risk
    ComplicationAdmissions% Added Risk
    Angina29292676
    Myocardial Infarction3697455
    Heart Failure19820574
    Stroke5834834
    Major Amputation2609222
    Minor Amputation6251337
    Renal Replacement Therapy678451164
    In addition, the number of diabetics who died between 1 January and 31 December 2012 was 75669 with additional risk over and above that of the general population of 38%

    The extent of the individual suffering and the burden on the NHS resources is truly staggering. Are the Pol Pot noodles worth it?

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    Post by Andy12345 Sun Aug 24 2014, 20:43

    hi welcome Smile thats one hell of an introduction lol
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    Post by Xyz Sun Aug 24 2014, 21:20

    Hi and welcome.

    And thank you for the stats!
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    Post by Paul1976 Sun Aug 24 2014, 21:44

    Hi John! EXCELLENT post! yep,all the foods outlined in your post above including the pot noodle's are pure junk and definitely not worth it!! I'd rather not partake myself and keep my limbs,eyesight and avoid Dialysis in the longterm! Shocking stats indeed but sadly not surprising with the current state of affairs whilst this kind of grub is still being advocated as fine,albeit in 'Portion control' amounts.

    Cheers

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    Post by Jan1 Sun Aug 24 2014, 23:17

    Hi John

    Great to see you here and what a stunning post.

    Those stats are truly abominable, when we will ever see a change? Lots more still needs to be done to spread the news about the benefits that a low carb high fat lifestyle can bring. This lifestyle is not only for diabetics it can also improve the health of non diabetics.

    All the best Jan
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    Post by graham64 Sun Aug 24 2014, 23:55

    Hey John I seem to have lost your phone number give me a bell I'd love to hear more about an old fossil Whitby Jet only found in your neck of the woods.
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    Post by Jan1 Mon Aug 25 2014, 15:37

    Goodness, I've just re-read John's post and again taken in the appalling numbers.

    I also quote part of his last paragraph:

    "In addition, the number of diabetics who died between 1 January and 31 December 2012 was 75669 with additional risk over and above that of the general population of 38%

    The extent of the individual suffering and the burden on the NHS resources is truly staggering."

    Joking aside ...... these figures surely show the case for eating real food, not processed and reducing your carb intake.

    Don't we owe it to ourselves and our family?

    All the best Jan
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    Post by Mud Island Dweller Mon Aug 25 2014, 17:27

    l just think ANYONE who eats pot noodles are brave or insane. Isnt wet paper tastier than them scratch

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