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    Study probes insulin effect in Type 2 diabetes.

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    Post by graham64 Sun Jan 18 2015, 22:21

    Analysis of thousands of NHS records has uncovered a link between an increased dosage of insulin in the treatment of type 2 diabetes and a heightened risk of death in patients.

    In a report published today in the journal of Diabetes, Obesity and Metabolism, researchers from the School of Medicine were also able to show a correlation between patients treated with a higher dosage of insulin and a raised risk of cancer development, heart attacks and stroke.


    Researchers identified these trends by scrutinizing the medical history of 6,484 patients with type 2 diabetes extracted from the UK Clinical Practice Research Datalink (CPRD). Patients were on average aged 64 at the beginning of the study in 2000, and were followed for an average of 3 years from their first exposure to insulin.

    Given that the study was retrospective, researchers were unable to know the exact insulin dosage that each patient had received during their treatment. Researchers used a method of calculating insulin dose per day based on the quantity of insulin prescribed and patients’ bodyweight.

    According to the researchers, one way of reporting the study results is to divide the cohort in to four patient groups, defined by the dose of insulin received, ranging from below 0.5 units per kilogram of bodyweight per day, up to doses exceeding 1.5 units.

    "When compared to patients who received doses of less than 0.5 units, our findings indicate that patients receiving doses of between 1 to 1.5 units and more than 1.5 units were associated with a much greater death rate over time," says Principal Investigator, Professor Craig Currie, from Cardiff University School of Medicine.

    "An estimated 15% of patients taking a dose of between 1 and 1.5 units had a 40% increased risk of death compared with the under-0.5 unit group, and the 5% of patients receiving more than 1.5 units had a 75% increased risk of death when compared with the same group."

    Professor Currie says that the reasons behind the findings are not entirely clear. In the paper, he does however cite a number of possible reasons as to why a link exists between the insulin dosage of people with type 2 diabetes and an increased risk of death and cancer.

    The paper highlights previous studies which suggest that insulin has growth-promoting effects that could be to blame for an increased rate of tumour development and detection, while other investigations have linked higher insulin doses with harmful side-effects such as thickening of the arteries and severely irregular heart rhythms.

    Keen that the significance of the findings should not be overstated, Professor Currie cautions:

    "It’s plausible that patients on higher doses of insulin had pre-existing illnesses before they started on insulin, which could account for the spike in instances of death and cancer.

    "Retrospective observational studies can only convey possible associations with adverse events such as these. It is also important to note that these findings do not relate to type 1 diabetes. These patients are typically much younger and absolutely require insulin.

    "What this study does show is a need for prospective randomized controlled trials to investigate the cause behind these patterns to provide conclusive evidence as to the real effect insulin is having on the thousands of patients who rely on glucose controlling medication."

    Of the 6484 patients whose records were analysed, 1110 patient deaths were recorded, as were 352 first major cardiovascular events and 382 cases of newly diagnosed cancer.

    Insulin is an injectable medication used to lower blood glucose levels in type 1 and type 2 diabetes, taken in tandem with other medications or as a single therapy. This study looked at patients with type 2 diabetes who administered insulin as their only treatment for the condition.

    Mr Simon O’Neill, Director of Health Intelligence, Diabetes UK, said:

    "As diabetes is a progressive condition, those on larger doses of insulin may have had the condition for longer and have other underlying health problems that we do not understand and so we would need further, more robust, research before we could be confident that insulin really does increase risk of early death.

    "But while the real-world relevance of this study is unclear, what is beyond doubt is that if you have Type 2 diabetes then maintaining consistently low blood glucose levels is vital for reducing risk of devastating complications such as blindness, amputation and stroke and, ultimately, early death. This is why insulin is an essential treatment and we would stress that it is incredibly important that people who have been prescribed insulin by their doctor continue to take it."

    http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/articles/astudiaeth-yn-ymchwilio-i-effaith-inswlin-13888.html?

    Not to worry folks I have it on good authority that I'ts just scaremongering
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    Post by mo1905 Mon Jan 19 2015, 10:05

    Scary stats but not surprising. The majority of T2's can avoid insulin altogether with changes to diet and/or lifestyle. Even those that struggle with that option can progress to tablets prior to insulin. So, by the time they are on insulin, I would think that a lot of damage has already been done and that some ( not all ) carried on eating a high carb diet.
    There will always be exceptions but stories like this should be scarce. Ditch the carbs and and a large percentage of this study should never have got to the insulin taking stage.
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    Post by Eddie Mon Jan 19 2015, 11:06

    Graham said "Not to worry folks I have it on good authority that I'ts just scaremongering"

    This is what he meant.

    Dear Giverny,

    I started the thread 'recent insulin study' in 'Diabetes Discussions' which you - innapropriately I feel - closed down today on the grounds that the forum was no place for "scaremongering... potentially dangerous information". Briefly overlooking the evident similarities with approaches taken in Orwell's 1984 (truth is such an inconveniently dangerous thing isn't it?), could I please query your precise grounds for closing down this apparently rather popular and, I felt, informative thread? Could you point, for example, to the specific comment added to the thread which you felt to be 'scaremongering' or 'potentially dangerous'? Certainly, for my part, the information I posted was an accurate reflection of information which is in the public domain and which I am very well qualified to interpret. A number of, often interesting and occasionally conflicting, viewpoints were added - this is the nature of debate, which, I would assume, is the primary function of a 'forum' (the latter deriving its title from debating habits embedded within the Roman political structure - which history suggests would themselves also have been on occasion fairly frank, forthright and not always in line with establishment views!) Whilst I believe one comment on the thread (given the moderator note added) may have included (somewhat oddly) a profanity, this having been 'blanked out', it clearly could not serve to give offence and all other comments on this thread, as far as I can tell, were civilised and entirely appropriate for this setting. So, could you please confirm what it was you took exception to in respect of the thread? I would appreciate it if you could be specific and give details of the individual comment(s) and content to which you objected.

    Thank you.

    AcademicDiabetic

    There has been exactly zero censorship in any sense, other than one post which could have led people to make dangerous decisions about their health. The thread was CLOSED, not deleted. This means all the advice and discussion still remains there, fully intact.

    I feel history is repeating itself here, so I am also going to CLOSE (not censor or delete) this thread too. If you wish to raise an issue with me, please do it via private message.

    @xyzzy I removed one post which may have led T2 users to STOP taking their insulin altogether. This directly breaks the forum rule whereby users may not post dangerous medical information.

    Giverny


    Did anyone notice, AcademicDiabetic appears to have left after his complaint. Never mind, another person will be along in a minute, another name on the list. Even the banned stay on the list, all more grist to the mill eh.

    This has been the pattern at DCUK for years FACT ! Countless threads that were informative and useful for many, have been locked. Giverny says "The thread was CLOSED, not deleted" but she must know full well, when a thread is locked, it disappears into oblivion and is almost never seen or heard of again.

    This is one of the reasons 99% of the members have walked or rarely ever post. The forum is a forum in name only. It's main role appears that of a list gathering exercise for sales emails. A small group has directed the place for years, only dullards or those with vested interests, cannot, or do not want to see it.

    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/dear-giverny-re-censorship.51071/

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