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    Insulin dosage for type 2 diabetes linked with increased death risk

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    Post by graham64 Wed Dec 10 2014, 23:00

    In a report published today in the journal of Diabetes, Obesity and Metabolism, researchers from Cardiff University were also able to show a correlation between patients treated with a higher dosage of insulin and a raised risk of cancer development, heart attacks and stroke.

    Researchers identified these trends by scrutinizing the medical history of 6,484patients with type 2 diabetes extracted from the UK Clinical Practice Research Datalink (CPRD). Patients were on average aged 64 at the beginning of the study in 2000, and were followed for an average of 3 years from their first exposure to insulin.
    Given that the study was retrospective, researchers were unable to know the exact insulin dosage that each patient had received during their treatment. Researchers used a method of calculating insulin dose per day based on the quantity of insulin prescribed and patients' bodyweight.
    According to the researchers, one way of reporting the study results is to divide the cohort in to four patient groups, defined by the dose of insulin received, ranging from below 0.5 units per kilogram of bodyweight per day, up to doses exceeding 1.5 units.
    "When compared to patients who received doses of less than 0.5 units, our findings indicate that patients receiving doses of between 1 to 1.5 units and more than 1.5 units were associated with a much greater death rate over time," says Principal Investigator, Professor Craig Currie, from Cardiff University School of Medicine.
    "An estimated 15% of patients taking a dose of between 1 and 1.5 units had a 40% increased risk of death compared with the under-0.5 unit group, and the 5% of patients receiving more than 1.5 units had a 75% increased risk of death when compared with the same group."
    Professor Currie says that the reasons behind the findings are not entirely clear. In the paper, he does however cite a number of possible reasons as to why a link exists between the insulin dosage of people with type 2 diabetes and an increased risk of death and cancer.
    The paper highlights previous studies which suggest that insulin has growth-promoting effects that could be to blame for an increased rate of tumour development and detection, while other investigations have linked higher insulin doses with harmful side-effects such as thickening of the arteries and severely irregular heart rhythms.
    Keen that the significance of the findings should not be overstated, Professor Currie cautions:
    "It's plausible that patients on higher doses of insulin had pre-existing illnesses before they started on insulin, which could account for the spike in instances of death and cancer.
    "Retrospective observational studies can only convey possible associations with adverse events such as these. It is also important to note that these findings do not relate to type 1 diabetes. These patients are typically much younger and absolutely require insulin.
    "What this study does show is a need for prospective randomized controlled trials to investigate the cause behind these patterns to provide conclusive evidence as to the real effect insulin is having on the thousands of patients who rely on glucose controlling medication."
    Of the 6484 patients whose records were analysed, 1110 patient deaths were recorded, as were 352 first major cardiovascular events and 382 cases of newly diagnosed cancer.
    http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-12-insulin-dosage-diabetes-linked-death.html

    Yet another article warning of the dangers of high dose insulin use in Type2 diabetics, the focus should be on reducing carbs and keeping drugs to a minimum.
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    Post by mo1905 Thu Dec 11 2014, 10:53

    I have no scientific evidence but my guess would be this would apply to T1's as well ? Large amounts of insulin would probably point to a high carb diet.
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    Post by yoly Thu Dec 11 2014, 11:32

    Or maybe just an indication of poor diet, poorly control diabetes and using the standard advice of keeping very high blood glucose numbers even with the increasing insulin use. Anyone needing insulin should take the advice of Dr.Bernstein. You can not just keep shooting any amount of insulin to cover a very high carbs diet. That only leads to poor control with a roll coaster of high insulin and high glucose only a madman can expect that to be healthy.
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    Post by j Thu Dec 11 2014, 13:14

    the POOR science friend...observation VS causation
    more carb, more insulin resistance, more weight, together are poor health outcomes and = more insulin
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    Post by mo1905 Thu Dec 11 2014, 17:09

    Most docs, consultants, the DVLA and DSN's are overly concerned with hypo's only. They encourage people to remain artificially high for fear of going low instead of educating good management. 99% of complications arise from high BG levels yet even the DVLA have no upper limit prior to driving. Most diabetics will tell you that if their numbers are high, they feel awful and their vision is blurred, strange then that there are no rules on this.
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    Post by j Fri Dec 12 2014, 18:35

    the good thing is with LCHF for T1 is that the brain has a buffer for hypo, because it 1/2 runs on ketones
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    Post by mo1905 Fri Dec 12 2014, 21:25

    j wrote:the good thing is with LCHF for T1 is that the brain has a buffer for hypo, because it 1/2 runs on ketones

    Is this not the case for T2's as well though ?
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    Post by graham64 Fri Dec 12 2014, 22:21

    mo1905 wrote:
    j wrote:the good thing is with LCHF for T1 is that the brain has a buffer for hypo, because it 1/2 runs on ketones

    Is this not the case for T2's as well though ?

    I'm not sure about that one Mo unless a T2 is on insulin or a multi meds regime, the chances of a disabling hypo on those on diet or diet and metformin are remote there are always exceptions of course. 

    You will have heard T2s talk about a liver dump this is the body's own defence to protect against hypos, the medical term for a liver dump is counterregulatory hormones which tell the liver to release more glucose when a low BG is detected, check the link for more detail.

    http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/Articles/Diabetes-Definitions/counterregulatory_hormones/

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