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    Post by Eddie Mon Nov 03 2014, 15:21

    I have made no secret of the fact, shortly after type two diagnosis and after having tests not normally carried out by the NHS, I was found to be suffering from atherosclerosis (coronary artery calcification) Angioplasty and two heart stents later, I am sorted and ready to rock and roll. The Cardiologist and my Doctor wanted me on statin drugs, and implied I was a dead man walking unless I took them. I refused them it was a good move, for many reasons. But here is the real mind blower, for type two diabetics, statin drugs increase coronary artery calcification by 50% yes you read that right. Here something I wrote a few years back.

    One of the first words your Doctor usually utters after confirming your new membership of the diabetes club is statins. Whatever your cholesterol levels are it’s almost always too high. You see he gets financial inducement to get you on statins. Now it is a known fact many diabetics die from CVD in fact it’s the biggest killer for members of the betus club. Does he send you back for more tests to check your levels of atherosclerosis ? No is the short answer. Statins are the wonder drugs and most are cheap, cheap is good and atherosclerosis tests ain’t cheap. So let’s say you’re a typical type two, around forty to sixty years of age at diagnosis. There is a more than fifty-fifty chance you are suffering some degree of atherosclerosis, and the statins make it worse, much worse. I’m an  atherosclerosis case as reported here in the past, I would not touch a statin with a ten foot pole.

    "Statins are the world's most-prescribed class of medications. A staggering one in four Americans over the age of 45 now take cholesterol-lowering drugs such as Pravachol, Mevacor, Lipitor, Zocor, Crestor, and others. A majority of them are taking these drugs for primary prevention of heart attacks and strokes.

    However, mounting research suggests this could be a critical mistake.

    Most recently, two separate studies have concluded that progression of coronary artery calcification, which is the hallmark of potentially lethal heart disease, is INCREASED with statin drug use.

    A new study in the journal Atherosclerosis1 shows that statin use is associated with a 52 percent increased prevalence and extent of calcified coronary plaque compared to non-users. None of the participants in the study – 6,673 in all – had any known coronary artery disease at the time of undergoing coronary CT angiography (CCTA) – a non-invasive method that allows you to see coronary atherosclerotic features, including plaque composition.

    Arterial plaque is a hallmark of cardiovascular disease and increases your risk of all-cause mortality, so clearly, anything that increases calcification and stiffening of your arteries is wisely avoided. And statins seem to fall into this category.

    These disturbing findings come right on the heels of another study published in the journal Diabetes Care,2 which discovered that type 2 diabetics with advanced atherosclerosis who are frequent statin users have significantly higher amounts of coronary artery calcification compared to less frequent users of the drug.

    Furthermore, in a subgroup of participants who initially were not receiving statins, progression of both coronary artery calcification as well as abdominal aortic artery calcification was significantly increased when they began frequent statin use."

    The authors concluded that:

    "More frequent statin use is associated with accelerated coronary artery calcification in T2DM patients with advanced atherosclerosis."

    Link to information here http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/10/15/statin-drugs-on-coronary-disease.aspx?e_cid=20121015_DNL_art_1
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    Post by carty Mon Nov 03 2014, 15:55

    When I was having a confrontation with my GP about why I wasn't being prescribed test strips I told him that I was saving him money by not taking statins He just said that statins were a cheap drug !! And I didn't get. the strips
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    Post by Jan1 Mon Nov 03 2014, 16:09

    carty wrote:When I was having a confrontation with my GP about why I wasn't being prescribed test strips I told him that I was saving him money by not taking statins He just said that statins were a cheap drug !! And I didn't get. the strips
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    I know many of you who are diabetic say they cannot get any test strips - it really does seem to be a postcode lottery. It shouldn't be !!

    As for statins, fortunately I am not in a position where I have to make any decision. But for any and all of us, when it comes to medication surely it is best to have all relevant information?

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    Post by AliB Mon Nov 03 2014, 16:32

    After the Byetta fiasco that trashed my pancreas and digestion big-time, the next time I saw the Diabetes 'specialist' who prescribed the evil Byetta a few months later, I had barely got in the door before he was trying to foist Statins on me!

    I told him I wouldn't take them.  Why not?  Because I think they are garbage, I replied.  Horrified, he said that I should be taking them because I am Diabetic.  What is my current cholesterol level, I asked?

    3.8.

    3.8. !?!?!?!  

    Any lower and I'd be a puddle on the floor!

    At that point, said 'specialist' and I agreed to part company.  That was 7 years ago, and I haven't seen another 'specialist' since.

    In my experience, 'specialists' only exist to make you more sick and die quicker.....
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    Post by Mud Island Dweller Tue Nov 04 2014, 07:40

    Thanks for the info Eddie l will smak my dn and dr with that one when l see them next.
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    Post by Tent Thu Nov 06 2014, 02:16

    A better alternative to statins is beta-glucans capsules three grams daily.

    Also you can learn to recognise your blood sugar levels without test strips by sipping your own pee, a practice common in India.

    There's a good book on the subject if anyone interested?

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    Post by zand Thu Nov 06 2014, 07:20

    Do you often take the p*ss then Tent?
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    Post by Two Collies Thu Nov 06 2014, 07:35

    Tent wrote:A better alternative to stains is beta-glucans capsules three grams daily. Also you can learn to recognise your blood sugar levels without test strips by sipping your own pee, a practice common in India. There's a good book on the subject if anyone interested?

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    Post by Two Collies Thu Nov 06 2014, 07:39

    Tent wrote:A better alternative to stains is beta-glucans capsules three grams daily. Also you can learn to recognise your blood sugar levels without test strips by sipping your own pee, a practice common in India. There's a good book on the subject if anyone interested?

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    Post by Mud Island Dweller Thu Nov 06 2014, 08:15

    Arabs have used the pee method for centuries to see if their camels are pregnant apparently the pee is slightly sweeter if pregnant.
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    Post by Two Collies Thu Nov 06 2014, 09:02

    Mud Island Dweller wrote:Arabs have used the pee method for centuries to see if their camels are pregnant apparently the pee is slightly sweeter if pregnant.
    Had the "pee test" in my BDS 1st year lectures (as an aside to the main subject which was "accurate observation") Laughing
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    Post by Tent Thu Nov 06 2014, 18:14

    Two Collies wrote:
    Mud Island Dweller wrote:Arabs have used the pee method for centuries to see if their camels are pregnant apparently the pee is slightly sweeter if pregnant.
    Had the "pee test" in my BDS 1st year lectures (as an aside to the main subject which was "accurate observation") Laughing

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    Post by zand Thu Nov 06 2014, 18:15

    Tent wrote:
    Two Collies wrote:
    Mud Island Dweller wrote:Arabs have used the pee method for centuries to see if their camels are pregnant apparently the pee is slightly sweeter if pregnant.
    Had the "pee test" in my BDS 1st year lectures (as an aside to the main subject which was "accurate observation") Laughing

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    Post by Tent Thu Nov 06 2014, 18:18

    zand wrote:
    What ...like a ....tent?

    I'm on holiday at the moment, in the wildness So don't have the facilities to upload a picture of myself. Why would you like to see it Zand? What a Face
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    Post by zand Thu Nov 06 2014, 18:32

    Tent wrote:
    zand wrote:
    What ...like a ....tent?

    I'm on holiday at the moment, in the wildness So don't have the facilities to upload a picture of myself. Why would you like to see it Zand? What a Face

    Probably not, 'cos than you'll expect me to post a photo of myself and I don't intend to do that for at least a year. Smile
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    Post by Tent Thu Nov 06 2014, 18:34

    zand wrote:
    Probably not, 'cos than you'll expect me to post a photo of myself and I don't intend to do that for at least a year. Smile

    That's a bit presumptuous. lol!

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    Post by zand Thu Nov 06 2014, 18:35

    Sorry was I getting too in- tents?
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    Post by Mud Island Dweller Thu Nov 06 2014, 19:55

    l like my Rhino we have a lot in common
    Both rare
    Both bad tempered
    Both from Africa
    Both dont like tents
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    Post by Paul1976 Thu Nov 06 2014, 20:02

    Mud Island Dweller wrote:l like my Rhino we have a lot in common
    Both rare
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    Both from Africa
    Both dont like tents

    One things for sure in my case in that I'm not so keen on Moose's now! freakout
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    Post by Tent Thu Nov 06 2014, 22:23

    Mud Island Dweller wrote:l like my Rhino we have a lot in common
    Both rare
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    Both from Africa
    Both dont like tents

    From Africa, out of curiosity are you coloured?

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    Post by Paul1976 Thu Nov 06 2014, 22:49

    Tent wrote:
    Mud Island Dweller wrote:l like my Rhino we have a lot in common
    Both rare
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    Both from Africa
    Both dont like tents

    From Africa, out of curiosity are you coloured?

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    I have no idea why you're curious about a members skin colour but be VERY aware-any racist content will NOT be tolerated here!!!
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    Post by Tent Thu Nov 06 2014, 22:58

    Paul wrote:

    I have no idea why you're curious about a members skin colour but be VERY aware-any racist content will NOT be tolerated here!!!

    I'm not being racist, I'm curious because diabetics is a disease along with HIV and Hepatitis C


















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    Post by graham64 Thu Nov 06 2014, 23:06

    P J wrote:I'm not being racist, I'm curious because diabetics is a disease along with HIV and Hepatitis C rife amongst Africans.

    I would love to know what the differences over there to over here in relation of diabetes management.


    Your pushing your luck now sunshine, racist, homophobic and sexist comments are against forum rules.
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    Post by Paul1976 Thu Nov 06 2014, 23:12

    I've just had to delete a disgusting comment on another thread made by Tent aka PJ so his exit visa has been issued.
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    Post by Two Collies Fri Nov 07 2014, 10:12

    Tent wrote:
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    Mud Island Dweller wrote:Arabs have used the pee method for centuries to see if their camels are pregnant apparently the pee is slightly sweeter if pregnant.
    Had the "pee test" in my BDS 1st year lectures (as an aside to the main subject which was "accurate observation") Laughing

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