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THE LOW CARB DIABETIC

Promoting a low carb high fat lifestyle for the safe control of diabetes. Eat whole fresh food, more drugs are not the answer.


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    Post by graham64 Thu Sep 15 2016, 22:19

    Aww! bless four dietitians have teamed up to give us diabetics a helping hand  Rolling Eyes

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    The role of carbohydrate in diabetes management

    PAUL D MCARDLE, DUANE MELLOR, SIAN RILSTONE AND JULIE TAPLIN

    The role of carbohydrate in the diet of people living with diabetes is an area of much debate. This relates to both type and quantity of carbohydrate consumed, with low carbohydrate diets increasing in popularity. However, it is important to take a whole diet approach and not just in terms of single nutrients. This review considers what carbohydrates are and how recommendations for people with diabetes might differ from those for the general population.

    There are no obligate requirements for dietary carbohydrate. UK recommenda.tions suggest 50% of total energy should come from carbohydrate for the general population; however, evidence does not support an optimal carbohydrate intake for people living with diabetes. Equally, there is no evidence to support a change in other macronutrient intakes including fat; thereby challenging the perspective of low carbohydrate diet advocates, which may encourage higher saturated fat intakes

    http://www.practicaldiabetes.com/article/role-carbohydrate-diabetes-management/

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    Weight loss in those who are overweight remains the most effective strategy to improve glycaemic control in type 2 diabetes.12 Limiting carbohydrate intake often serves to limit energy intake, and thus aid weight management.16 The ultimate fate of all carbohydrate as glucose and its effect on insulin is often used as a rationale for severe carbohydrate restrictions,25 with type 2 diabetes in particular being described by low carbohydrate advocates as a condition of carbohydrate intolerance. Evidence to support this is limited and it is likely that it works primarily by energy restriction,30 which may be achieved through portion control of all energy-dense foods. 

    Not for those like me for who energy restriction is not an option but as per usual dietitians can't see beyond low calorie, anyway what happens after weight loss and calories need to be increased  Question

    Evert et al.20 also reported no association between whole grain intake and glycaemic control; however, whole grains are known to reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer and so should be promoted to all patients.33

    Total bullshit any diabetic with BG monitor will show the detrimental effect of whole grains on blood sugar
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    Post by chris c Sun Sep 18 2016, 22:00

    "There are no obligate requirements for dietary carbohydrate. UK recommendations suggest 50% of total energy should come from carbohydrate for the general population"

    No cognitive dissonance there then.

    Buffoons. So how did one of our doctors become immensely fat and diabetic then?

    Soon the majority of the population will be either overweight or diabetic or both. How these people can take pride in their work defeats me.

    Oh wait, isn't Practical Diabetes where David Unwin got published? Maybe someone demanded an antidote.
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    Post by graham64 Mon Sep 19 2016, 21:30

    chris c wrote:"There are no obligate requirements for dietary carbohydrate. UK recommendations suggest 50% of total energy should come from carbohydrate for the general population"

    No cognitive dissonance there then.

    Buffoons. So how did one of our doctors become immensely fat and diabetic then?

    Soon the majority of the population will be either overweight or diabetic or both. How these people can take pride in their work defeats me.

    Oh wait, isn't Practical Diabetes where David Unwin got published? Maybe someone demanded an antidote.

    Can you spare $20 Chris to assist some poor impoverished dietitians  Question


    Dietitians, we’ve been sitting on the sidelines too long as misinformation about diet and nutrition is spread by the media, celebrities and so-called “experts”. Enough is enough. 

    The public doesn’t understand what a dietitian has to offer. As a result, many of us are unemployed. Underemployed. Underpaid. How do I know this? Because you told me so, both publicly and in private. You said: we are at a crisis point. You also told me exactly what you thought we could do to make a difference: undertake a national awareness campaign to change public opinion [read more here and here].

    Now, I’m taking your feedback, and acting on it. We are nutrition scientists, and we need the public to understand that. 

    https://pozible.com/project/dietitiansunite

    Some more dietitians not happy about low carb it would seem Rolling Eyes

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    Post by Eddie Tue Sep 20 2016, 16:38

    graham64 wrote:
    chris c wrote:"There are no obligate requirements for dietary carbohydrate. UK recommendations suggest 50% of total energy should come from carbohydrate for the general population"

    No cognitive dissonance there then.

    Buffoons. So how did one of our doctors become immensely fat and diabetic then?

    Soon the majority of the population will be either overweight or diabetic or both. How these people can take pride in their work defeats me.

    Oh wait, isn't Practical Diabetes where David Unwin got published? Maybe someone demanded an antidote.

    Can you spare $20 Chris to assist some poor impoverished dietitians  Question


    Dietitians, we’ve been sitting on the sidelines too long as misinformation about diet and nutrition is spread by the media, celebrities and so-called “experts”. Enough is enough. 

    The public doesn’t understand what a dietitian has to offer. As a result, many of us are unemployed. Underemployed. Underpaid. How do I know this? Because you told me so, both publicly and in private. You said: we are at a crisis point. You also told me exactly what you thought we could do to make a difference: undertake a national awareness campaign to change public opinion [read more here and here].

    Now, I’m taking your feedback, and acting on it. We are nutrition scientists, and we need the public to understand that. 

    https://pozible.com/project/dietitiansunite

    Some more dietitians not happy about low carb it would seem Rolling Eyes

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    Those Australian RD's are clearly desperate methinks. They have finally comprehended, the public realises most are junk food shills. "We are nutrition scientists" they say, clearly delusional. The BDA and most other dietary outfits are just copy and paste  merchants, pushing others bent science and misinformation. How long before the NHS wakes up to these scammers and fires the lot? Let's face it, so many RD's can't control their own weight, and they have the brass neck to lecture others. Only in a world this mad could they get away with it.
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    Post by chris c Tue Sep 20 2016, 22:09

    Australian dieticians should NOT put their heads up above the parapet, look what they have done to Jennifer Elliott and are doing to Gary Fettke. All is not entirely lost though

    http://bant.org.uk

    https://phcuk.org
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    Post by graham64 Tue Sep 20 2016, 22:22

    chris c wrote:Australian dieticians should NOT put their heads up above the parapet, look what they have done to Jennifer Elliott and are doing to Gary Fettke. All is not entirely lost though

    http://bant.org.uk

    https://phcuk.org

    I take it your not going to donate then Chris  Laughing
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    Post by graham64 Thu Sep 22 2016, 22:32

    Don't use Dr Google it may upset some dietitians Shocked 

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    Post by graham64 Thu Sep 22 2016, 22:36

    chris c wrote:Australian dieticians should NOT put their heads up above the parapet, look what they have done to Jennifer Elliott and are doing to Gary Fettke. All is not entirely lost though

    http://bant.org.uk

    https://phcuk.org


    Another four besides Jennifer Elliot expelled from the DAA http://dmsweb.daa.asn.au/dmsweb/frmSuspendedAPDList.aspx

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