Global warming fact or another money making great myth?

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Not you Eddie, I didn't realise you were a supporter of big oil and fundamentalist Yanks!

Derek wrote:Not you Eddie, I didn't realise you were a supporter of big oil and fundamentalist Yanks!

Yes I am a supporter of big oil (I'll be using a lot of their product over the next few days) but more accurately, I am a supporter of true capitalism. So often these days we see phoney capitalism. The Banks being a good example. As for fundamentalist Yanks, could you expand on that statement? Thank you.

Hi Eddie,
My BT hub went down in the storm and I am having to use the public library computer.

Fundamentalist Yanks believe the world was created 6,000 years ago in six literal days and greenhouses gases are a conspiracy, however, if we exploit this planet it doesn't matter, God's got a replacement waiting for us.

I'm a Christian but they are not my views.

I have no doubt we are changing the planet and its climate and a minor change in sea temperature to the north and west of Scotland has caused sea bird colonies to crash. It is just up by 1 deg C.
I have debated this subject at length with Yanks and others.
atb
Derek

Ahh! But is this true Eddie; all that ice?  It can't be true.  250 scientists say the climate is warming and the ice is melting!

Wobblycogs wrote:Ahh! But is this true Eddie; all that ice?  It can't be true.  250 scientists say the climate is warming and the ice is melting!

There are countless scientists who tell us natural fats are killers and carbs are our best friend. It never ceases to amaze me how many scientists are employed to state the blindingly obvious. These days many scientists start with the conclusion and work their way back to make the 'evidence' fit. No doubt we are polluting the world big time, especially the sea's and air. What effect this has on the earths temperature has yet to be proved. I have seen articles telling us, cows are wrecking the planet with all the gas they produce. Did you know a jumbo jet burns on average a gallon of fuel per second, and there are a hell of a lot of planes in the air.


This screen shot taken today of just large planes, in the air in Europe in live time around 10.15am today.

https://www.flightradar24.com/50.17,8.21/5

I shall have to find a 'smiley' that expresses my sarcasm adequately Eddie! Maybe ?

Wobblycogs wrote:I shall have to find a 'smiley' that expresses my sarcasm adequately  Eddie! Maybe ?

I am sure we are on the same side mate, I am a bit worried about Derek

Well I know for a fact that during my lifetime breeding seasons of birds and flowering seasons of plants have moved forward by up to three weeks, and a whole bunch of southern European insects are now to be found this far north. 

There's definitely something going on, plus more "extreme weather events" of all kinds, which suggests more energy in the system.

The only question is how much this is caused by humans. My thought is to minimise our effect anyway. By the way, cows fart a lot less when they graze than when they are fed grains. Exactly the same happened to me.

Hi Eddie,
I think the report you quoted was from a source that got its facts twisted.

I heard a report from the boat yesterday and it is en route across the Barents Sea to pass Novaya Zemlya and proceed across the Russian Siberian Artic Ocean before it transits the N.W. Passage north of Alaska and Canada.  

Fact: the  summer sea ice has retreated by c.15%/decade for the last few decades and we shall just have to see what its minimum is in September this year? It may well be ice free enough for the boat to make a complete transit.
Derek

Ah, the impassable North West Passage, navigated and mapped by Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen, over a 100 years ago. Maybe there was less ice about in those days

The trouble with the global warming theory, is for every boffin that says it's happening, another boffin says it's all bunkum. I often wonder, how many hundreds of thousand of boffins, are employed trotting out agenda driven pseudo science. I suppose it keeps them off unemployment lists.

Since I have heard of global warming, our summers have become non events re. hot weather. Mind you, we have had about four hot days the year.