Meanwhile over at DCUK the forum of flog, a new low carb high fat hero has arrived on the scene the legendary Ivor Cummins AKA The Fat Emperor. He had barely stopped moving before he went straight for the jugular of the forums carb up and shoot up high priestess, the one and only Phoenix AKA Marie Antoinette. Long time flog watches know there is nothing Marie relishes more than meddling in type two diabetes threads. Long regarded as the cut and paste and dubious link information supremo, she was back to her old tricks. The Emperor was having none of it, and went straight on the attack. Flog regulars gasped, never had they seen the most protected one suffer such an arse whipping, surely a mod would be along any time soon and rescue the med shill from further punishment. How could this new upstart not be post edited, deleted or banned. What special powers does this new bringer of the 'force' possess, will the Emperor survive at the flog, or is he a suicide King.
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I love it!! It'll take a HECK of a lot more than some burnt out old low carb anti to phase Ivor! Hope he doesn't get banned!
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Paul1976 wrote:I love it!! It'll take a HECK of a lot more than some burnt out old low carb anti to phase Ivor! Hope he doesn't get banned!
I have had a total scream with Ivor and others on twitter today over my rant today. The fastest read view post I have ever placed on the blog. This betus malarky ain't all leg chopping and Blind Pew.
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As I just posted on the blog, here's Ivor taking down another blogger and the study he was championing
"Hi Stephan
I commented on twitter that I was surprised at the credence you are affording this study. I have not the time to waste going through all the details, but will reproduce the comment I jotted down on my facebook page - perhaps you could deliver a high-level response to same - thanks.
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - so much is artfully wrong with this study.....it's unlikely to have happened by chance stupidity. This methodology is becoming common - comparing a ridiculously short-term isocalorific pseudo-low-carb (29%), to an ultra impossible low-fat (8%). It is becoming known that short-term ultra-low-fat (whilst ridiculous in real life), can generate the apparent effects that the experimenters are specifically mining for. Keeping the 'low-carb' not really low carb at all, enhances the errors, and tuning the timebase to be very short ensures no metabolic adjustment to allow benefit to accrue. The whole deceitful mess is massively magnified by eliminating the crucial hunger-driving factor from the equation. Yes, I suspect these guys know exactly what they are doing here; while it may not be direct remuneration, a question of motive is still pertinant. What is driving their deceit?"
Gotta love the guy.
"Hi Stephan
I commented on twitter that I was surprised at the credence you are affording this study. I have not the time to waste going through all the details, but will reproduce the comment I jotted down on my facebook page - perhaps you could deliver a high-level response to same - thanks.
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - so much is artfully wrong with this study.....it's unlikely to have happened by chance stupidity. This methodology is becoming common - comparing a ridiculously short-term isocalorific pseudo-low-carb (29%), to an ultra impossible low-fat (8%). It is becoming known that short-term ultra-low-fat (whilst ridiculous in real life), can generate the apparent effects that the experimenters are specifically mining for. Keeping the 'low-carb' not really low carb at all, enhances the errors, and tuning the timebase to be very short ensures no metabolic adjustment to allow benefit to accrue. The whole deceitful mess is massively magnified by eliminating the crucial hunger-driving factor from the equation. Yes, I suspect these guys know exactly what they are doing here; while it may not be direct remuneration, a question of motive is still pertinant. What is driving their deceit?"
Gotta love the guy.
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Paul1976 wrote:I love it!! It'll take a HECK of a lot more than some burnt out old low carb anti to phase Ivor! Hope he doesn't get banned!
Do you think we should alert Ivor about the curse of "a plague on his house"
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I tend to think people might take him a bit more seriously if he (a) didn't keep talking down to them like they're a bunch of moronic schoolkids and (b) hasn't had more farewells than Nellie Melba (or John Farnham of more modern reference) - he keeps saying he's leaving them to it, then can't seem to stop himself from coming back. Stay; leave; don't care; just stop talking about it. Flounces get old real fast in my book
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graham64 wrote:Paul1976 wrote:I love it!! It'll take a HECK of a lot more than some burnt out old low carb anti to phase Ivor! Hope he doesn't get banned!
Do you think we should alert Ivor about the curse of "a plague on his house"
Absolutely! I'm wearing my anti hex underpants as I'm typing this!
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My money is on The Emperor not lasting long, he will be banned or walk. But great to see the science battering down the idiotic massively failed carb up and shoot up dogma, the spreaders of misinformation, the med shills and carboholics getting a damn good kicking.