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    DUK: The food you love, but healthier

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    DUK: The food you love, but healthier

    Post by graham64 on Wed May 24 2017, 22:25

    Amongst the offerings are Fish and Chips, Apple Strudel and Ajiaco-Colombian chicken and potato soup  Shocked

    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News/The-food-you-love-but-healthier/


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    Post by chris c on Wed May 24 2017, 23:17

    Potato soup! They are fucking mental.
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    Post by graham64 on Thu May 25 2017, 22:50

    @chris c wrote:Potato soup! They are fucking mental.

    Yes but that's only a starter and it is low fat though so that's ok  floggingdeadhorse


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    Post by Paul1976 on Fri May 26 2017, 02:32

    Didn't they also publish a Potato pizza recipe too a couple of years ago or so IIRC? freakout They're having a bloody laugh at the expense of the very people they say they're 'Supposed' to have the backs of! facepalm


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    Re: DUK: The food you love, but healthier

    Post by Eddie on Fri May 26 2017, 11:05

    @Paul1976 wrote:Didn't they also publish a Potato pizza recipe too a couple of years ago or so IIRC? freakout They're having a bloody laugh at the expense of the very people they say they're 'Supposed' to have the backs of! facepalm

    This is the situation with the people "supposed" to have our backs covered and work in our best interest.

    From a recent blog post.

    Black OP's outfits.

    In the UK there are approximately four million diabetics. Around 90% are type two diabetics. The majority of type two diabetics could control their diabetes with a low carb higher healthy natural fat lifestyle. Medication if required, is usually minimal. Type one diabetics also benefit from low carb, by way of much reduced insulin usage, which very often leads to more stable control of blood glucose levels. The organisations below do not support or recommend a low carb diet. Therefore, blood glucose control, for the majority of diabetics is abysmal. It is clear to see why this horrendous situation has come about. Conflicts of interest.

    Ask yourself, how long would large food companies and big pharma, financially support these organisations, if their dietary recommendations resulted in less sales, and loss of revenue. A low carb diet is not a no carb diet. The foods shown below, have been included in my low carb (50 carbs per day) diet for nine years. Countless hospital blood tests confirm, my diet has caused no ill effects whatsoever, in fact the contrary. My Doctor describes my diabetes control as excellent. It is worth noting, the NHS annual audited stats show, over 90% of type one diabetics and over 70% of type two diabetics, fail to get to a safe level of blood glucose control, let alone excellent.

    Why do I call these organisations Black OP's outfits. It is my opinion, these organisations are doing diabetics great harm, and are perpetuating the epidemics of obesity and often linked type two diabetes. Many are no more than wolves in sheep clothing, far too many, have taken the thirty pieces of silver.


    British Dietetic Association

    Danone, Abbott Nutrition, Nestle, Cereal Partners, BelVita Breakfast Biscuits and Coca Cola.

    DUK The diabetes charity.

    Abbott Bayer Boehringer Ingelheim Bristol Myers Squibb Bupa Bunzl Everyclick First Capital Connect Flora pro.activ Kodak Lilly Lloyds Pharmacy Menarini Merck Serono Morphy Richards Merck Sharp & Dohme Limited Novartis Novo Nordisk Nursing Times PAL Technologies Ltd Pfizer Rowlands Pharmacies Sanofi-aventis SplendaTakeda Tesco Diets

    HEART UK -The Nation’s Cholesterol Charity

    Abbott Healthcare Alpro UK AstraZeneca BHR Pharma Cambridge Weight Plan Cereal Partners UK (Sh Wheat) Food & Drink Federation Fresenius Medical Care (UK) Limited Genzyme Therapeutics Hovis Kellogg’s (Optivita) Kowa Pharmaceutical Europe Co Limited L.IN.C Medical Systems Limited Merck Sharpe & Dhome PlanMyFood Pfizer Premier Foods Progenika Biopharma s.a. Roche Products Limited Unilever (Flora) Welch’s (Purple Grape Juice)

    Blood Pressure UK

    Merck Sharp & Dohme Limited, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Takeda Pharmaceutical Company, The Menarini Group, Servier Laboratories Ltd and Boehringer Ingelheim Limited.


    The British Nutrition Foundation

    The organisation's 39 members, which contribute to its funding, include – beside the Government, the EU – Cadbury, Kellogg's, Northern Foods, McDonald's, PizzaExpress, the main supermarket chains except Tesco, and producer bodies such as the Potato Council. The chairman of its board of trustees, is or was, Paul Hebblethwaite, is or was, also chairman of the Biscuit, Cake, Chocolate and Confectionery Trade Association.

    The European Food Information Council

    Current EUFIC members are: AB Sugar, Ajinomoto Sweeteners Europe, Bunge, Cargill, Cereal Partners, Coca-Cola, Danone, DSM Nutritional Products Europe Ltd., Ferrero, Kraft Foods, Mars, McDonald's, Nestlé, PepsiCo, Pfizer Animal Health, Südzucker, and Unilever.

    The British Heart Foundation

    Unilever Flora margarine.

    Results for England. The National Diabetes Audit 2010-2011

    Percentage of registered Type 1 patients in England

    HbA1c > 6.5% (48 mmol/mol) = 92.6%
    HbA1c > 7.5% (58 mmol/mol) = 71.3%
    HbA1c > 10.0% (86 mmol/mol) = 18.1%

    Percentage of registered Type 2 patients in England

    HbA1c > 6.5% (48 mmol/mol = 72.5%
    HbA1c > 7.5% (58 mmol/mol) = 32.6%
    HbA1c >10.0% (86 mmol/mol) = 6.8%
    These results are very similar to those obtained over the past 5 - 6 years.

    Link to NHS audited statistics here.  http://content.digital.nhs.uk/media/10747/National-Diabetes-Audit-2010-2011-Report-on-Care-Processes-and-Treatment-Targets/pdf/National_Diabetes_Audit_2010_2011_Report1_Care_Processes_And_Treatment_Targets_V4.pdf



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    Re: DUK: The food you love, but healthier

    Post by Paul1976 on Fri May 26 2017, 17:34

    There does 'Appear' to be a DUK 'Mole' on our members list,no names obviously but wouldn't it be good to hear their take on this lamentable state of affairs? Question popcorn


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    Post by Eddie on Fri May 26 2017, 17:48

    @Paul1976 wrote:There does 'Appear' to be a DUK 'Mole' on our members list,no names obviously but wouldn't it be good to hear their take on this lamentable state of affairs? Question popcorn

    Expect to hear zilch. Anyone can join this forum and say what they like if it's lawful. It won't ever happen, because they know we are right. End of!


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    Post by graham64 on Fri May 26 2017, 22:09

    @Paul1976 wrote:There does 'Appear' to be a DUK 'Mole' on our members list,no names obviously but wouldn't it be good to hear their take on this lamentable state of affairs? Question popcorn

    Little chance of that happening Paul, their site is full of of high carb recipes totally unsuitable for diabetics can't see how they can defend the indefensible  Sad


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    Post by chris c on Sat May 27 2017, 20:08

    Do they still have the immensely fat chef in their cookery videos?

    Meanwhile

    https://diabetesdietblog.com/2017/05/26/teenagers-with-diabetes-need-extra-support/

    they should take themselves outside and shoot themselves if they think they are helping at all.
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    Post by graham64 on Sat May 27 2017, 23:27

    More on the DUK approved recipes http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4534756/Bake-judge-Prue-Leith-shares-tasty-healthy-recipes.html

    Their low fat sugar and salt so must be ok for diabetics regardless of the carb content Rolling Eyes


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    Post by chris c on Mon May 29 2017, 20:02

    Have you tried my recipe for metformin and insulin soup? It's REALLY yummy though you have to inject some of it.
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    Post by graham64 on Mon May 29 2017, 22:18

    @chris c wrote:Have you tried my recipe for metformin and insulin soup? It's REALLY yummy though you have to inject some of it.

    So that's the antidote for the DUK recipes  Wink


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    Post by graham64 on Mon May 29 2017, 22:38

    The Eatwell guide good for diabetics  Question DUK endorses it 

    The Guide shows the proportions of food groups and how much of each we should be eating daily. According to PHE these breakdown roughly into: starchy 37%; fruit/veg 39%; oils 1%; beans, pulses, meat 12%; dairy 8%; occasional foods 3%.

    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/Enjoy-food/Eating-with-diabetes/The-Eatwell-Guide/


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    Post by chris c on Thu Jun 01 2017, 22:11

    I recently had occasion to dig up a blast from the past for Adele Hite

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040203222331/http://www.diabetes.org/nutrition-and-recipes/nutrition/starches.jsp

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040203184749/http://www.diabetes.org:80/nutrition-and-recipes/nutrition/foodpyramid.jsp

    https://web.archive.org/web/20040203144056/http://www.diabetes.org:80/support-the-cause/corporate-friends/recognizing-our-corporate-sponsors.jsp

    I was actually surprised when I held my nose and plunged in to find some ADA recipes with only 20 - 30g carbs and some even less

    Look at this!

    http://www.diabetes.org/mfa-recipes/recipes/2017-03-grilled-spice-rubbed-salmon.html

    are they trying to kill diabetics??? only 2g carbs your brain will pack in! oh wait . . .

    http://www.diabetes.org/mfa-recipes/recipes/recipes-archive.html

    Quite interesting how they have made a bit of a volte face after posting something ludicrous on Facebook a while back which had something like 86g carbs and was roundly attacked

    There's hope yet, and I don't mean Warshaw


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