Don’t blame the type one diabetics blame the media.

Check out a lot of diabetes forums and there is often conflict between type one and type two diabetics. Check out a newspaper article and type two’s are usually portrayed as morbidly obese layabouts scoffing pies all day long. If the article is running a comments from the public section, it’s not long before type one’s come steaming in with “don’t confuse me with those fat gits” type of stuff, or words to that effect. I can see their point to some extent, we know becoming a type one has nothing to do with race, creed, lifestyle etc. It’s just fate playing a mean hand.

When you think about it, being a type one is a much tougher gig. Type two’s are usually only fighting to keep BG down, type one’s are having to keep BG up as well. Finding that balance of keeping BG in the safe zone is difficult to achieve, made far more difficult by the carb up and shoot up advice most are given. That being said, almost all the best controlled diabetics I know are type one’s. So, if you really want to know how to run non diabetic numbers, follow a  type one with great control. It was type one diabetics who put me straight, Dr. Bernstein, Fergus Craig and do any of you old timers remember Timo? This them and us situation is a classic divide and conquer tactic, to confuse people, and as we know, there are many who are making a fortune from confusing and misinforming people.

Human beings are masters at turning a simple solution into mind boggling complexity. My oldman used to say “bullshit baffles brains” and in the world of diabetes, the bullshit is piled so high, you need breathing apparatus at times.  Controlling diabetes can be as simple or complicated as you want to make it, why are so many hell bent on making it complicated?

All diabetics must work together, all human beings must work together, work is the main word here, sitting on your butt moaning ain’t going to get anyone anywhere. Spread the low carb message at every opportunity, use just ten minutes a day, more if you can spare the time, and post on forums and blogs. Tell people about your good news. Don’t ever fall for the “it’s only anecdotal”  cop out, we hear from so many professional naysaying medical professionals. It was mostly ordinary diabetics that put me straight, and I am willing to bet, they put you straight as well. Am I right, or am I right.

Eddie you're right!

Great post Eddie and spot on!

I totally agree that it's the fault of the media, but then you could also say it's the fault of those who believe the media too. As a type 2, I also have a battle against insulin resistance and I find it very hard to lose weight. For me the battle with BG's is the easy part.

zand wrote:I totally agree that it's the fault of the media, but then you could also say it's the fault of those who believe the media too.    As a type 2, I also have a battle against insulin resistance and I find it very hard to lose weight.  For me the battle with BG's is the easy part.

I reckon we have all been fooled by the media. I swallowed the low fat diet BS hook line and sinker for at least twenty years.

eddie1 wrote:

zand wrote:I totally agree that it's the fault of the media, but then you could also say it's the fault of those who believe the media too.    As a type 2, I also have a battle against insulin resistance and I find it very hard to lose weight.  For me the battle with BG's is the easy part.

I reckon we have all been fooled by the media. I swallowed the low fat diet BS hook line and sinker for at least twenty years.

Yes me too. That's why I'm diabetic and fat!

What I really would have liked all those years ago would have been for someone to tell me that I would never look like the women in the magazines no matter what I did and that I looked OK as I was.

zand wrote:

eddie1 wrote:

zand wrote:I totally agree that it's the fault of the media, but then you could also say it's the fault of those who believe the media too.    As a type 2, I also have a battle against insulin resistance and I find it very hard to lose weight.  For me the battle with BG's is the easy part.

I reckon we have all been fooled by the media. I swallowed the low fat diet BS hook line and sinker for at least twenty years.

Yes me too.  That's why I'm diabetic and fat!

What I really would have liked all those years ago would have been for someone to tell me that I would never look like the women in the magazines no matter what I did and that I looked OK as I was.  

I'll let you know a secret, most of the women in the magazines, don't look like the women in the magazines. Years ago one of my first pro photography jobs was working in a studio. Women would come in and have a huge amount of work done by make up artistes and top notch hair dressers. I would then photograph these women. With very special lighting, soft focus filters and very cleverly worked out poses. Sometimes they would come in to the office with no make up, hair all over the place and tee shirt and jeens. Often they would say hi Eddie how are you, I would smile back and say great how are you, I hid the fact I did not recognise them. Add some clever photoshop work and their own family would not recognise some of them I reckon. Hell of a lot of fantasy out there. But that is all it is, fantasy. If only all women and a lot of men realised that.

Yes I learnt that lesson way too late, but I don't suppose I would have listened if you had told me that all those years ago.

zand wrote:Yes I learnt that lesson way too late, but I don't suppose I would have listened if you had told me that all those years ago.  

You would have if I had told you, persuading people is what I do, hopefully for their benefit. Writing on forums and blogs is a very poor way to communicate, give me one on one face to face situation, and I am reasonably good at that. I love people watching and listening to others, they tell you their complete life story, and most never know it. So often we here "we are all different" take out the psychopaths and warped, and we are all the same. The same fears, the same wants, the same weaknesses and insecurities. Some are just better at hiding these things.

Andy??? Wow!!! You're speaking French???

oui

lol

Andy12345 wrote:oui

Sorry instead of saying lol....I should have said mdr (that's French!)

eddie1 wrote:Check out a lot of diabetes forums and there is often conflict between type one and type two diabetics. Check out a newspaper article and type two’s are usually portrayed as morbidly obese layabouts scoffing pies all day long. If the article is running a comments from the public section, it’s not long before type one’s come steaming in with “don’t confuse me with those fat gits” type of stuff, or words to that effect. I can see their point to some extent, we know becoming a type one has nothing to do with race, creed, lifestyle etc. It’s just fate playing a mean hand.

When you think about it, being a type one is a much tougher gig. Type two’s are usually only fighting to keep BG down, type one’s are having to keep BG up as well. Finding that balance of keeping BG in the safe zone is difficult to achieve, made far more difficult by the carb up and shoot up advice most are given. That being said, almost all the best controlled diabetics I know are type one’s. So, if you really want to know how to run non diabetic numbers, follow a  type one with great control. It was type one diabetics who put me straight, Dr. Bernstein, Fergus Craig and do any of you old timers remember Timo? This them and us situation is a classic divide and conquer tactic, to confuse people, and as we know, there are many who are making a fortune from confusing and misinforming people.

Human beings are masters at turning a simple solution into mind boggling complexity. My oldman used to say “bullshit baffles brains” and in the world of diabetes, the bullshit is piled so high, you need breathing apparatus at times.  Controlling diabetes can be as simple or complicated as you want to make it, why are so many hell bent on making it complicated?

All diabetics must work together, all human beings must work together, work is the main word here, sitting on your butt moaning ain’t going to get anyone anywhere. Spread the low carb message at every opportunity, use just ten minutes a day, more if you can spare the time, and post on forums and blogs. Tell people about your good news. Don’t ever fall for the “it’s only anecdotal”  cop out, we hear from so many professional naysaying medical professionals. It was mostly ordinary diabetics that put me straight, and I am willing to bet, they put you straight as well. Am I right, or am I right.

Great post Eddie and pretty much sums up why we spend so much time on these forums ! 99% of my diabetes knowledge has come from forums so I think it's only fair to give some back ! It doesn't take much and most of our results are invisible but I'm certain, between us, we've helped many to gain better control or to alleviate fears. It's actually quite basic advice that's needed. Some over complicate diabetes which isn't necessary.
In my short time on forums, I've definitely noticed the tide beginning to turn. Only a few months back anyone pushing LCHF on certain forums were jumped on and ridiculed. This is getting less and less.

type 2s rule

type 1s suck

.....so do french people

(only my opinion, I'm not medically trained)

Andy12345 wrote:type 2s rule

type 1s suck

.....so do french people

(only my opinion, I'm not medically trained)

Bonjour Andre, are we still all different or was than just on the "other" place ??

Andy12345 wrote:type 2s rule

type 1s suck

.....so do french people

(only my opinion, I'm not medically trained)

D'accord! Vive la difference!

nah we are all the same

imagine that, your all like me

Andy12345 wrote:nah we are all the same

imagine that, your all like me

Lol ! We must be different then :-)
Au revoir Andre un, deux, trois quatre, cinq

Talking of France...

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/i-hate-the-expression-nothing-is-banned-completely.71736/page-2#post-762446

Post #22

Wonder who she's referring to?

Paul wrote:Talking of France...

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/i-hate-the-expression-nothing-is-banned-completely.71736/page-2#post-762446

Post #22

Wonder who she's referring to?

Yes I saw that too.

Type 1 or type 2 we can all end up with the same b@@stard complications.
I come from a family that has a number of type 2s. None were fat on diagnosis. My dad had a 28 inch waist when he was finally diagnosed. There are also a number of us type 1s on the same side of the family.
The way I see it is that type2s tend to be diagnosed after a long time unknowingly being diabetic. Symptoms are put down to tiredness, age etc. by the time they are actually diagnosed the poor buggers are already on the way to complications.
Unless we all start kicking off together about the ridiculous advice given about eating carbs unnecessary complications are going to continue.
My dad got shouted out for eating rubbish. I know he wasn't. He was following the nhs advice to the letter. My sister and I didn't know any better at the time, we were the ones cooking for him from the leaflets and booklets he was given.
Now I'd love to verbally slap the dietitian who treated my dad like a naughty kid.
Unfortunately it is taking the media an awful long time to catch up in the causes of type 2.
I just know that as a type 1 I am incredibly grateful for all the low carb advice that seems actually to have been started by type 2s and now being used by type 1s.
I think we start a new diabetes classification system based on dietary choices.
I want to be known as a lchf diabetic. Too cool for school type!

Yes I got shouted at for not losing weight and I followed the diet sheets to the letter too. I was desperately unhappy because I tried so hard and no-one believed me.

Hi Zand. It's disgusting how some health care specialists automatically assume you are lying.
My dad ended up on insulin. If I had known better at the time I might have been able to stop that happening. He was always so bloody cold because he wouldn't eat any fat. He was a 32 inch waist in the end.
He ate to his insulin and had a number of hypos.
I always fiddled with my insulin to allow me to eat what I wanted at the time (I was the size of a house).
He wouldn't change his injections because he was seriously old school that the doctors and nurses knew best.
Even when they were shouting at him and he was doing exactly what they said.
So I'm happy to not be a number but a LCHF diabetic!