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    Good dietitian bad dietitian

    Post by graham64 on Mon May 22 2017, 22:14

    First the good   Cool

    Dietitian Jon Leech discusses why you may want to consider cutting carbs in this video from Authority Nutrition. He explains that by reducing carbs, many dieters won’t need to count calories as you’ll likely be less hungry by replacing sugar and starches, such as breads and pasta, with more satiating protein and fat. The average person eats more than 200 grams of carbohydrates per day, so low-carb diets would be well below that.

    Leech explains that a moderate intake of carbohydrates, about 100 to 150 grams per day, are recommended for lean and active people who simply want to maintain weight. It is possible to lose weight the dietitian explains, however that would involve counting calories or monitoring portions.

    If you’re looking to drop weight, Leech advises aiming for 50 to 100 grams of carbs a day. This would include a diet full of vegetables, about two pieces of fruit and only minimal amounts of starchy carbs like potatoes. You’ll have to cut junk food and snacks out, but those are easy ways to eliminate carbs and sugar.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/what-you-should-know-about-low-carb-diet-2541722


    Now for the bad

    Swapping out your bread, pasta and carbs for a low card diet sounds like a surefire way to drop those extra kilos.
    But experts are warning to watch for signs of anxiety and mood changes if you do so.
    Australian dietitian and nutritionist Lyndi Cohen claims when we choose not to include carbohydrates in our diets, our moods can change drastically.

    Speaking to Body and Soul, Ms Cohen said carbs trigger positive mood chemicals in our brain.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4529074/Lack-carbs-diet-trigger-anxiety-depression.html#comments


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    Post by chris c on Thu May 25 2017, 00:06

    Dumb bitch, that explains all those rabid vegans and clueless and arrogant dieticians then. There was just a study about low carb diets improving depression. Happened to me and many others, though whether it's the excess of carbs/glucose or the lack of fats which cause the mental as well as physical symptoms, or both, is uncertain. Either way my mood doesn't swing any more than my energy levels.
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    Post by graham64 on Thu May 25 2017, 22:46

    @chris c wrote:Dumb bitch, that explains all those rabid vegans and clueless and arrogant dieticians then. There was just a study about low carb diets improving depression. Happened to me and many others, though whether it's the excess of carbs/glucose or the lack of fats which cause the mental as well as physical symptoms, or both, is uncertain. Either way my mood doesn't swing any more than my energy levels.

    Ally 666 used to go on about serotonin which she could not even spell  correctly  Rolling Eyes low carbers were lacking it due to not eating potatoes  Laughing phoenix jumped on the bandwagon too now if ever there was an example of a moody short tempered person it was her 

    I can recall going to bed laughing at the fun us low carbers were having at DCUK  Laughing


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    Post by chris c on Sat May 27 2017, 21:28

    SSRIs, another triumph of marketing over reality. Seroxat only had a temporary effect on me, and increasing the dose turned me into a chain-smoking coffee-swilling zombie. They are sold as being side effect free - far from the case - and safe in overdose. For a lot of people they work at first, then downregulate dopamine and leave you worse off.

    My problem was more with dopamine and norepinephrine, and cortisol. Well guess what not only actual genuine hypos but also rapid drops in BG cause to be dumped?

    IME tricyclics were probably the "best" drugs, though with funky side effects as they also hit acetylcholine and histamine. Venlafaxine (Efexor here, Effexor in the rest of the world, why???) was nearly as good and for me mostly side-effect free, not the case with many others.

    Curiously (or not of course) cutting the carbs stopped the BG swings which killed the "mental" symptoms as well as the physical ones. Far from uncommon. OK I still get wound up when I read bullshit, but that's because it is bullshit <G>
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    Post by Eddie on Mon May 29 2017, 12:46

    @graham64 wrote:
    @chris c wrote:Dumb bitch, that explains all those rabid vegans and clueless and arrogant dieticians then. There was just a study about low carb diets improving depression. Happened to me and many others, though whether it's the excess of carbs/glucose or the lack of fats which cause the mental as well as physical symptoms, or both, is uncertain. Either way my mood doesn't swing any more than my energy levels.

    Ally 666 used to go on about serotonin which she could not even spell  correctly  Rolling Eyes low carbers were lacking it due to not eating potatoes  Laughing phoenix jumped on the bandwagon too now if ever there was an example of a moody short tempered person it was her 

    I can recall going to bed laughing at the fun us low carbers were having at DCUK  Laughing

    "I can recall going to bed laughing at the fun us low carbers were having at DCUK  Laughing"

    Those were the days, how hard the antis fought to shut us up. Not many left of the old anti clique. The low carb warriors are still alive and kicking, and years on, not one serious complication amongst us. When the forum of flog owner became a torch bearer for us, the antis must have had a fit. rofl Remember "He who dares wins"


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    Post by chris c on Mon May 29 2017, 20:41

    Yes still no scurvy, and still in possession of all my limbs and kidneys. I remember one low carb anti who I first met on usenet and later saw on various forums, often short lived visits before he got banned again. Every time he returned he was on more meds.

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/16549716.2017.1289650

    well written and simple enough that even a dietician, or a narcissistic twerp of low intelligence, could understand it if they wanted to.

    Meanwhile

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5364735/

    "Conclusion

    Metabolic syndrome prevalence increased from 1988 to 2012 for every sociodemographic group; by 2012, more than a third of all US adults met the definition and criteria for metabolic syndrome agreed to jointly by several international organizations."

    hugely scary numbers

    http://www.cmaj.ca/content/189/20/E711.full.pdf+html

    wow! sugar actually fights diabetes, oh hang on

    "Competing interests: Russell de Souza has served as an external resource person to the World Health Organization (WHO) Nutrition Guidance Expert Advisory Group (NUGAG) Subgroup on Diet and Health (guidelines for trans fats and saturated fats), and received renumeration from WHO for travel and accommodation. He also received compensation for contract research conducted for the Institute of Nutrition, Metabolism, and Diabetes at the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), Health Canada and WHO. He has received research grants from the Canadian Foundation for Dietetic Research and CIHR, and lecture fees from McMaster Children’s Hospital. Vanessa Ha has received research support from WHO. She has received a travel award and doctoral scholarship from CIHR. Alexandra Jenkins is part owner, Vice-President and Director of Research for Glycemic Index Laboratories, Toronto, Ont. She has received research support from the Canadian Diabetes Association (CDA). Thomas Wolever is part owner and President of Glycemic Index Laboratories. Cyril Kendall has received research support from the Advanced Foods and Materials Network, Agricultural Bioproducts Innovation Program through the Pulse Research Network, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, Almond Board of California, Barilla, Calorie Control Council, CIHR, Canola Council of Canada, The Coca-Cola Company, The International Tree Nut Council Nutrition Research & Education Foundation, Kellogg, Loblaw Companies Ltd., Pulse Canada, Saskatchewan Pulse Growers and Unilever. He has received consultant fees from American Pistachio Growers; speaker fees from American Peanut Council, Tate & Lyle and The WhiteWave Foods Company; and travel funding from Sabra Dipping Company, Tate & Lyle, International Tree Nut Council Research & Education Foundation, California Walnut Commission, Sun-Maid, The Peanut Institute, General Mills, Oldways Foundation and International Nut and Dried Fruit Council Foundation. He is a member of the Clinical Practice Guidelines Expert Committee for Nutrition Therapy of the European Association for the Study of Diabetes (EASD), the Diabetes and Nutrition Study Group of the EASD and the International Carbohydrate Quality Consortium, and is the Director for the Toronto 3D Knowledge Synthesis and Clinical Trials Foundation. David Jenkins has received research grants from Saskatchewan Pulse Growers, Agricultural Bioproducts Innovation Program through the Pulse Research Network, Advanced Foods and Materials Network, Loblaw Companies Ltd., Unilever, Barilla, Almond Board of California, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, Pulse Canada, Kellogg’s Canada, Quaker Oats Canada, Proctor & Gamble Technical Centres, Bayer Consumer Care (Springfield, New Jersey), PepsiCo/Quaker, International Nut and Dried Fruit Council Foundation, Soyfoods Association of North America, The Coca-Cola Company (investigator initiated, unrestricted grant), Solae, Hain Celestial, Sanitarium Company, Orafti, International Tree Nut Council Nutrition Research & Education Foundation, The Peanut Institute, Canola Council of Canada, Flax Council of Canada, Calorie Control Council, CIHR, Canada Foundation for Innovation (CFI) and Ontario Research Fund. He has been on the speaker’s panel, served on the scientific advisory board, and/or received travel support and/or honoraria from Almond Board of California, Canadian Agriculture Policy Institute, Loblaw Companies Ltd., Griffin Hospital (for the development of the NuVal scoring system), The Coca-Cola Company, EPICURE, Danone, Diet Quality Photo Navigation, Saskatchewan Pulse Growers, Sanitarium Company, Orafti, American Peanut Council, The International Tree Nut Council Nutrition Research & Education Foundation, The Peanut Institute, Herbalife International, Pacific Health Laboratories, Nutritional Fundamentals for Health, Barilla, Metagenics, Bayer Consumer Care, Unilever Canada and Netherlands, Solae, Kellogg’s, Quaker Oats, Procter & Gamble, Abbott Laboratories, Canola Council of Canada, Dean Foods, California Strawberry Commission, Hain Celestial, PepsiCo, Alpro Foundation, Pioneer Hi-Bred International, DuPont Nutrition and Health, Spherix Consulting, The WhiteWave Foods Company, Advanced Foods and Materials Network, Flax Council of Canada, Nutritional Fundamentals for Health, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, Canadian Agri-Food Policy Institute, Pulse Canada, Soyfoods Association of North America, Nutrition Foundation of Italy (NFI), Nutrasource Diagnostics, McDougall Program, Toronto Knowledge Translation Working Group (St. Michael’s Hospital), Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine, The Hospital for Sick Children, Canadian Nutrition Society (CNS), American Society for Nutrition (ASN), Arizona State University, Paolo Sorbini Foundation and Institute of Nutrition, Metabolism and Diabetes. He received an honorarium from the US Department of Agriculture to present the 2013 W.O. Atwater Memorial Lecture. He received the 2013 Award for Excellence in Research from the International Nut and Dried Fruit Council Foundation. He received funding and travel support from The Canadian Society of Endocrinology and Metabolism to produce minicases for the CDA. His spouse (Alexandra Jenkins) is a director and partner of Glycemic Index Laboratories, and his sister (Caroline Brydson) received funding through a grant from the St. Michael’s Hospital Foundation to develop a cookbook for one of his studies. John Sievenpiper has received research support from CIHR, CDA, PSI Foundation, Banting & Best Diabetes Centre, CNS, ASN, Calorie Control Council, INC International Nut and Dried Fruit Council Foundation, National Dried Fruit Trade Association, The Coca-Cola Company (investigator initiated, unrestricted), Dr Pepper Snapple Group (investigator initiated, unrestricted), The Tate and Lyle Nutritional Research Fund at the University of Toronto, and The Glycemic Control and Cardiovascular Disease in Type 2 Diabetes Fund at the University of Toronto. He has received reimbursement of travel expenses, speaker fees and/or honoraria from CDA, CNS, University of Alabama at Birmingham, Oldways Preservaton Trust, NFI, Diabetes and Nutrition Study Group (DNSG) of the of the European Association for the Study of Diabetes (EASD), International Life Sciences Institute North America, Dr Pepper Snapple Group, Corn Refiners Association, World Sugar Research Organization, Dairy Farmers of Canada, Società Italiana di Nutrizione Umana (SINU), III World Congress of Public Health Nutrition, C3 Collaborating for Health, Sprim Brasil, The WhiteWave Foods Company, Rippe Lifestyle Institute, mdBriefCase Group, Federation of European Nutrition Societies (FENS), New York Academy of Sciences, International Diabetes Federation, American Heart Association (AHA), ASN, FoodMinds LLC, Memac Ogilvy & Mather LLC, Pulse Canada, PepsiCo, BCFN Foundation, The Ginger Network and Dietitians of Canada. He has ad hoc consulting arrangements with Winston & Strawn LLP, Perkins Coie LLP and Tate & Lyle. He is a member of the European Fruit Juice Association Scientific Expert Panel. He is on the Clinical Practice Guidelines Expert Committees of the CDA, EASD and Canadian Cardiovascular Society, as well as an expert writing panel of the ASN. He serves as an unpaid scientific advisor for the Food, Nutrition, and Safety Program, and the Technical Committee on Carbohydrates of the International Life Sciences Institute North America. He is a member of the International Carbohydrate Quality Consortium, Executive Board Member of the DNSG of the EASD, and Director of the Toronto 3D Knowledge Synthesis and Clinical Trials foundation. His spouse is an employee of Unilever Canada. Arash Mirrahimi has received a research grant from CIHR. No other competing interests were declared.
    Funding: This work was funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR, funding reference no. 129920) through the Canada-wide Human Nutrition Trialists’ Network and an unrestricted grant from the Calorie Control Council. The Diet, Digestive tract, and Disease (3D), funded through the Canada Foundation for Innovation (CFI) and the Ministry of Research and Innovation’s Ontario Research Fund (ORF), provided the infrastructure for the conduct of this project. Vanessa Ha was supported by an Ontario Graduate Scholarship. Adrian Cozma was funded by an Ontario Graduate Scholarship and by a CIHR–Frederick Banting and Charles Best Canada Graduate Scholarship, and Banting & Best Diabetes Centre–Novo Nordisk Studentship. David Jenkins was supported by the Government of Canada through the Canada Research Chair Endowment. John Sieven-piper was supported by a PSI Graham Farquharson Knowledge Translation Fellowship, Canadian Diabetes Association Clinician Scientist Award, CIHR INMD/CNS–New Investigator Partnership Prize, and Banting & Best Diabetes Centre – Sun Life Financial New Investigator Award. None of the sponsors had a role in any aspect of the present study, including design and conduct of the study; collection, management, analysis and interpretation of the data; and preparation, review, approval of the manuscript or decision to publish."

    Who pays the Sievenpiper calls the tune

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