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    Nutrition science trial of the century starts today.

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    Nutrition science trial of the century starts today.

    Post by Eddie on Mon Nov 23 2015, 08:19

    You can follow the low carb trial of Professor Tim Noakes live here. No need to tell the folks here how important this trial is for low carb.

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/noakeshpcsa?src=hash



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    Post by chris c on Mon Nov 23 2015, 23:03

    Wouldn't it be horribly ironic if he went to prison just as they let Oscar Pistorius out?
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    Post by Eddie on Tue Nov 24 2015, 18:50

    Professor Noakes has submitted 4000 pages of evidence to back his case. Now that is what I call ammo!

    Cape Town - Claire Julsing Strydom - the ex-president of the Association of Dietetics in SA (ADSA) - has denied that her complaint to the Health Professions Council of SA (HPCSA) was motivated by resentment against Professor Tim Noakes.

    She told a hearing into a charge of professional misconduct against the sports scientist that she was motivated by her desire to protect the public from Noakes's "dangerous" messages which were inconsistent and not evidence-based.

    She was responding to Advocate Michael van der Nest's suggestion that her complaint to the HPCSA was driven by resentment as she didn't agree with Noakes's "unconventional diet".

    During the cross-examination she described Noakes's messages as "inconsistent ", with no solid scientific evidence.

    She said she had tried for many years to engage with Noakes and had tried to get appropriate evidence in the form of reviews and meta analysis. Noakes had failed to present this evidence.

    Her complaint was aimed at protecting those whose lives could be endangered by his advice.

    She said Noakes was trusted by society and his advice could mislead many as it was regarded as an absolute truth.

    "Professor Tim Noakes is a trusted medical practitioner. He is highly regarded. People think what he says is 100 percent true," she said.

    "It is not resentment or a personal attack on Professor Noakes... We are not happy with the information he is distributing. The problem is that this information is focused on an infant...and I understand that is a vulnerable group," she said

    Van der Nest indicated that Noakes has submitted 4000 pages of evidence to back his case.

    Info from here.

    http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/i-am-not-resentful-of-noakes-accuser-1.1950104#.VlSvHVXhDC0


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    Post by chris c on Tue Nov 24 2015, 22:33

    Hahahahaha that's the way to do it!

    My sincerest hope is that they make themselves look like a laughing stock. This won't be hard.
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    Post by graham64 on Tue Nov 24 2015, 22:57

    From the ADSA dietitian at the Tim Noakes trial who probably thinks babies should be weaned onto cornflakes 


    Strydom: I worked for Kelloggs, gave them nutrition info, was paid, as many dietitians are


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    Post by graham64 on Wed Nov 25 2015, 21:19

    During the lunch break when Noakes’ supporters shared their Banting snacks, management informed them they were not allowed to bring in their own food.

    I think they must have gone hungry  after seeing the snacks provided  Rolling Eyes



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    Post by Paul1976 on Thu Nov 26 2015, 15:20

    @graham64 wrote:
    During the lunch break when Noakes’ supporters shared their Banting snacks, management informed them they were not allowed to bring in their own food.

    I think they must have gone hungry  after seeing the snacks provided  Rolling Eyes


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    Post by Eddie on Thu Nov 26 2015, 16:58

    The dietitian who started the action against Prof. Tim Noakes, Claire Julsing Stryd took me on today, just about as much fun as I have had in years. This is a Woman who has said this week she has been paid by Kellogg's. If she has half a brain she must be regretting bitterly for ever taking on A1 rated Professor Emeritus Noakes. Jeez twitter was made for a bloke like me I should have joined up years ago. Of course the antis can block as a few BDA dietitians have, but they cannot stop the low carb good news getting out.


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    Post by chris c on Fri Nov 27 2015, 22:09

    Keep us informed!
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    Post by Eddie on Tue Dec 01 2015, 11:16

    Noakes hearing postponed to February.


    Cape Town - Professor Tim Noakes will know early next year whether or not he’ll lose his licence to practice as a doctor.

    The hearing into his professional conduct by the Health Professions Council of SA (HPCSA) was postponed on Monday.

    The inquiry came to an abrupt end after his lawyers said they were not ready to cross-examine a “surprise witness” called by the HPCSA.

    Prof. Willem Pienaar, a bioethicist at Stellenbosch University, was brought in at the eleventh hour as a fourth expert witness to testify whether it was ethical for Noakes to give dietary advice on social media to a breast-feeding mother.

    Noakes is facing a charge of unprofessional conduct after he advised the mother of a young baby on Twitter to wean her child on a low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet (LCHF). When the mother, Pippa Leenstra asked Noakes on Twitter last year what foods to wean her baby on, the UCT emeritus professor responded: “Baby doesn’t eat the dairy and cauliflower. Just very healthy high-fat breast milk. Key is to ween (sic) into a LCHF.”

    The response prompted the then-president of the Association of Dietetics SA, Claire Julsing-Strydom, to lodge a complaint with the HPCSA.

    On Monday the inquiry, which was scheduled to end on Tuesday, got off to a rocky start after pro forma complainant advocate Meshak Mapolisa indicated he would be calling Pienaar as an expert witness to testify whether or not it was ethical for Noakes to give such dietary advice to a breast-feeding mother on social media.

    Just two hours into proceedings, there was an adjournment for the committee hearing the matter to decide whether or not to allow Pienaar to estify.

    Noakes’s legal team objected to a new witness being called, saying that such a move would not only delay the case, but would prejudice Noakes who had “a cloud hanging over him” since the HPCSA charged him in February. Mapolisa told the committee he wanted to introduce Pienaar after the qualifications of Professor Salomé Kruger as an ethicist were questioned by the defence during cross-examination last week.

    Kruger is one of three expert witnesses that had already questioned Noakes’s advice, saying it was “inappropriate”.

    Mapolisa said Pienaar’s testimony would “close the gap”.

    But Noakes’s advocate, Michael van der Nest objected, arguing that Mapolisa introduced the “surprise” witness very late on Friday afternoon – after 5pm – giving the defence no time to prepare for cross-examination.

    He said Mapolisa also breached the regulations of the HPCSA, which required supplementary documents on witnesses to be submitted at least seven days before the hearing.

    The committee’s chairwoman Joan Adams later ruled in favour of Mapolisa, but Van der Nest indicated that the defence was not ready to cross-examine and would need time to prepare.

    On Monday, the inquiry also heard from Nkagiseng Madube, HPCSA’s legal officer, who testified as a procedural witness.

    Madube explained the procedure followed by HPCSA from the day a complaint is laid throught to the preliminary inquiry.

    Madube also faced tough questions from Van der Nest.

    He asked Madube why Noakes wouldn’t be allowed to see and respond to the expert opinion written by Professor Esté Vorster and information used to charge him. Madube said such information was for the eyes of the committee only.

    He wouldn’t explain why such information was kept secret, saying only that the regulations allowed it, and it was designed to speed up the process and limit costs.

    Van der Nest, also put it to Madube that in 2012 the Health Professions Council of SA (HPCSA) warned – in a press release compiled by Professor Edelweiss Wentzel-Viljoen – against following a high-protein, high-fat and low-carbohydrate diet.

    Van der Nest said Wentzel-Viljoen had been on the preliminary committee that had considered the complaint against Noakes and that this “therefore was conflict of interest”.

    Madube said he had not sat on the preliminary committee.

    The hearing resumes on February 8 and is set to continue until February 17.

    Cape Argus, Cape Times


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