Childhood Stress Can Triple Chances of Getting Type 1 Diabetes

CAULIFLOWER! And that's my list! Oh videos of baby elephants playing but don't sit still too long as that's bad for you. Oh and so is standing!

Sorry, just found this cauliflower recipe and lots of chocolate involved. It doesn't make the list ;-)
You got me on the standing up elephant video though !

zand wrote:

Why me?  Why not me?

Guys if you don't want this stuff on your forum please delete it.

Oh Zand, I'm so sorry. I wish I could say something that might be of any use, but I feel words just fail in the face of this.

As others have said I think you are very brave to talk about this. I hope you don't feel like a victim as that has all sorts of power/powerlessness implications. You are a survivor. You are strong and kind and funny; and there's no higher compliment in my book.

I wish we could rain down pain, hell and damnation on the scum that did this to you but I know it can't be done.

I respect you very much for telling us about this.

All my best

Al

Dillinger wrote:

zand wrote:

Why me?  Why not me?

Guys if you don't want this stuff on your forum please delete it.

Oh Zand, I'm so sorry. I wish I could say something that might be of any use, but I feel words just fail in the face of this.

As others have said I think you are very brave to talk about this. I hope you don't feel like a victim as that has all sorts of power/powerlessness implications. You are a survivor. You are strong and kind and funny; and there's no higher compliment in my book.

I wish we could rain down pain, hell and damnation on the scum that did this to you but I know it can't be done.

I respect you very much for telling us about this.

All my best

Al

You said it all Al. I did not use the word "victim" in a derogatory way. Maybe poorly explained, but It was my way of saying a totally innocent child that was dealt a very bad hand.

Loose Cannon wrote:

I did not use the word "victim" in a derogatory way. Maybe poorly explained, but It was my way of saying a totally innocent child that was dealt a very bad hand.

I know; I'm not saying that for a moment - I wasn't having a go. "Hang your head and weep, if you should dare to harm a child" as the great Christopher Hitchens once said.

Dillinger wrote:

Loose Cannon wrote:

I did not use the word "victim" in a derogatory way. Maybe poorly explained, but It was my way of saying a totally innocent child that was dealt a very bad hand.

I know; I'm not saying that for a moment - I wasn't having a go. "Hang your head and weep, if you should dare to harm a child" as the great Christopher Hitchens once said.

I liked hitch almost as much as I like Zand.

Dillinger wrote:

zand wrote:

Why me?  Why not me?

Guys if you don't want this stuff on your forum please delete it.

Oh Zand, I'm so sorry. I wish I could say something that might be of any use, but I feel words just fail in the face of this.

As others have said I think you are very brave to talk about this. I hope you don't feel like a victim as that has all sorts of power/powerlessness implications. You are a survivor. You are strong and kind and funny; and there's no higher compliment in my book.

I wish we could rain down pain, hell and damnation on the scum that did this to you but I know it can't be done.

I respect you very much for telling us about this.

All my best

Al

You did say something that was of use to me!!!!! That very long link you provided on Thursday together with an argument elsewhere gave me the push I needed to bring this out into the open. Thank you so much for posting it.

Although I had already told several people individually, I was still bound by the silence. I was still a victim. Not anymore. Now the whole world can see it and that's fine by me. You all knew I was depressed and having counselling anyway. Now you all know why and also why I argued with Eddie when he said that people know why they're depressed, I know it's possible not to know why because I didn't have those dreams until I was in my 40's. I am sure Eddie was right in that the majority of people do know the reason, but I always have been a bit different.

Until Thursday I was unable to feel angry about what those people did to me. Thanks to your link I have found that anger. Those 3 statements I picked out of it were very real to me. My counsellor says that with anger comes a will of my own, and the will then breaks the trauma which had bound me in silence and layers of body fat as protection. I knew there was something blocking my weight loss. I am hoping that with effort it will now start to shift again.

Yesterday we went to footie. I had a very small bet on the Grand National. I haven't placed a bet for a very long time. Yesterday it felt so different. No buzz, no escape from being me. I also had a pint of cider. No urge to have another. It was just a drink which I enjoyed (OK not so good on the carbs count, but yesterday it felt right.)

So, thank you Dillinger. I am now happy to be present in my life. You helped me so much without even trying.

beardie wrote:

Dillinger wrote:

Loose Cannon wrote:

I did not use the word "victim" in a derogatory way. Maybe poorly explained, but It was my way of saying a totally innocent child that was dealt a very bad hand.

I know; I'm not saying that for a moment - I wasn't having a go. "Hang your head and weep, if you should dare to harm a child" as the great Christopher Hitchens once said.

I liked hitch almost as much as I like Zand.

PS Thanks guys for being so supportive.  We have a lovely forum here where I feel safe.  

zand wrote:PS Thanks guys for being so supportive.  We have a lovely forum here where I feel safe.  

Always safe here Zand and plenty of support. Crazy thing is, some people see us as the bad guys ! The naughty, dark forum lol ! Far from it, we welcome everyone and promote free speech without backlash. Thanks again Zand for feeling secure enough in our forum to be able to share your past and so glad that it has had such a positive effect on you.

mo1905 wrote:

zand wrote:PS Thanks guys for being so supportive.  We have a lovely forum here where I feel safe.  

Always safe here Zand and plenty of support. Crazy thing is, some people see us as the bad guys ! The naughty, dark forum lol ! Far from it, we welcome everyone and promote free speech without backlash. Thanks again Zand for feeling secure enough in our forum to be able to share your past and so glad that it has had such a positive effect on you.

and thanks for starting this thread which prompted me to speak out Elsewhere I might have been warned (or banned ) for thread derailing lol That wouldn't have helped me at all, I would have felt even more like a lump of sh*t and I wouldn't have the wonderful support I feel here.

Today I am happy

zand wrote:

mo1905 wrote:

zand wrote:PS Thanks guys for being so supportive.  We have a lovely forum here where I feel safe.  

Always safe here Zand and plenty of support. Crazy thing is, some people see us as the bad guys ! The naughty, dark forum lol ! Far from it, we welcome everyone and promote free speech without backlash. Thanks again Zand for feeling secure enough in our forum to be able to share your past and so glad that it has had such a positive effect on you.

and thanks for starting this thread which prompted me to speak out   Elsewhere I might have been warned (or banned ) for thread derailing lol  That wouldn't have helped me at all, I would have felt even more like a lump of sh*t and I wouldn't have the wonderful support I feel here.

Today I am happy

Great to hear you are happy.
That makes me happy too.

Zand said

"Elsewhere I might have been warned (or banned ) for thread derailing lol  That wouldn't have helped me at all, I would have felt even more like a lump of sh*t and I wouldn't have the wonderful support I feel here."

I am glad you are happy and feel safe here. I truly believe we are right, that gives us a great strength. We can all defend out beliefs and have no fear of being questioned or challenged. When you have to ban, thread lock and delete a members posts to shut down the debate, you have lost. Some call some members here bully's, but as far as a forum goes, the aforementioned anti freedom of speech tactics are bullying at it's worse in my opinion. At the flog they don't seem to realise this, will it be ever thus?

Loose Cannon wrote:

Some call some members here bully's...

Yeh lol we all make mistakes sometimes

I've just been warned for thread derailing elsewhere! Do you think they got the idea from what I said on this thread?

bad girl

Who me?

Mrs Vimes wrote:Oh alright then, I got type 1 from stress caused by Gary Lineker leaving to go to Japan!
On a more serious note, my mum had died, then I got cold after cold. Run down with bereavement whatever. Then 6 months later I developed type 1 but I was an adult.

I fancied the arse off Peter Reid though.

Not this peter reid?

I didn't do anything Zand, just posted a link or two.

But thank you anyway.

Best

Al