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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 21:23

    OK this goes for women too. Like most men I have been obsessed with cars since a kid. I reckon I have had at least a hundred cars. This was my first. I used to rent a flat with a large garage I did not use. A guy asked me if he could use it to repair old cars. I did not charge him rent, and as a thank you he gave me my first car (not the exact car), a Ford Popular. 20 years of age and the freedom of my own wheels. I taught myself to drive in this car over a weekend and out on the open road, no licence etc. I was always a rebel, or an idiot. OK the law caught up with me and done me for no L plates and no accompanying qualified driver, hardly the crime of the century. I loved that old car and had some great times in it. It ended up in the scrap yard after an MOT deemed it a death trap and beyond repair. It certainly had some excessive play on the back seat LOL. What was your first car?



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    Post by Paul1976 on Fri Apr 17 2015, 21:48



    Not my image but my first (Legal) car at 17 was a 1974 Austin Mini 850 just like the one in the image above,even the same 'orrible colour(Which I got the rattle cans out to change to black),cost me £150 from a guy in Northfield,Birmingham,came with 12 months MOT and Tax but I reckon the MOT was bent as the brakes didn't work unless you pumped 'em about 5 times approaching each junction or roundabout and it had more holes in it than a piece of Leerdammer cheese! The 850 engine couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding but I loved it all the same and it was dead fun!-Just like a go kart when you flinged it about the country lanes and I got one fun summer taking a few girls out to the Lickey hills and the Malverns,parking up,hitting the quieter spots and...well,you know what! Wink Happy days but I written the car off when I hit a Citroen BX head on one day,bought a Vauxhall Nova to replace it-good car but not half as fun as the mini.


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    Post by mo1905 on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:01

    Ford Fiesta Ghia for me. I remember it well. Had many cars since then. Worst was an Austin Montego, proper pile of s**t. I think one of my best was a Ford Cortina Mk II.


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    Post by graham64 on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:12

    My first car bought for 20 quid in the the 60s was an Austin A30, it was a sieve if it rained I had to bale it out  Shocked I used to hold the gear lever with my knee to keep it in second gear but hey it got us from A to B and we even had a few trips out to the lakes and the seaside in it. I wasn't sorry to see it go but my toddler daughter cried when we part exchanged it for an A 40 Crying or Very sad



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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:13

    "Worst was an Austin Montego, proper pile of s**t."

    I had a new one of them, got shot within months, I had forgotten that pile of grief until you mentioned it. That sort of car was known as a shed in the motor trade.


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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:15

    @graham64 wrote:My first car bought for 20 quid in the the 60s was an Austin A30, it was a sieve if it rained I had to bale it out  Shocked I used to hold the gear lever with my knee to keep it in second gear but hey it got us from A to B and we even had a few trips out to the lakes and the seaside in it. I wasn't sorry to see it go but my toddler daughter cried when we part exchanged it for an A 40 Crying or Very sad


    I had one of them too. I blew it up. I removed the engine and it never went back, another one way trip to the scrap yard. Happy days. facepalm


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    Post by Paul1976 on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:17

    Loose Cannon wrote:"Worst was an Austin Montego, proper pile of s**t."

    I had a new one of them, got shot within months, I had forgotten that pile of grief until you mentioned it. That sort of car was known as a shed in the motor trade.

    My old man had one and if you turned the engine off at a petrol station to fill up(With a warm engine) it wouldn't restart afterwards unless you popped the bonnet,unscrewed the carburettor dashpot cap,started it and then replaced the dashpot cap!! Yeah,pretty annoying each fill up or short stop!


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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:31

    Do you know Paul I never owned a Mini, never ever drove one. My oldest daughter bought a brand new Mini convertible a few years back, complete crap. Unreliable and leaked like a sieve. Swiftly outed.


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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:41

    Anyone ever have one of these? I did. So slow you couldn't get into trouble and sounded like a vegetarians fart on the overrun, but hey, it was a set of wheels.




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    Post by graham64 on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:43

    After the A 40 I bought a ford Classic quite advanced for the the year, but I didn't like the column change.

     

    Next was a Cortina GXL probably my favourite car in the past


    After that came a  Morris Marina 1.8 TC the less said about that the better What a Face


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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:49

    "After that came a  Morris Marina 1.8 TC the less said about that the better"

    Too right arguably the biggest piece of crap ever to come out of British Leyland. I had a couple of Cortina's the best was a 2000E. Great motor bright metallic green vinyl roof.



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    Post by Paul1976 on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:51

    Loose Cannon wrote:Anyone ever have one of these? I did. So slow you couldn't get into trouble and sounded like a vegetarians fart on the overrun, but hey, it was a set of wheels.



    I haven't been in one but I'd sure like one! Probably a Traveller 'Woodie' model though and it would have to have the authentic 'Fart' noise between gear changes that lots of them had! mrgreen


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    Post by Eddie on Fri Apr 17 2015, 22:54

    @Paul1976 wrote:
    Loose Cannon wrote:Anyone ever have one of these? I did. So slow you couldn't get into trouble and sounded like a vegetarians fart on the overrun, but hey, it was a set of wheels.



    I haven't been in one but I'd sure like one! Probably a Traveller 'Woodie' model though and it would have to have the authentic 'Fart' noise between gear changes that lots of them had! mrgreen

    Save yourself the grief son, just get your wife on a veggie diet and save an awful lot of money. woot


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    Post by Jan1 on Fri Sep 25 2015, 18:49

    Happened to see a pink car today ...


    Don't think it would suit a man and his motors!!

    Grand Prix this weekend ... and not a pink car in sight

    Come on Lewis!


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    Post by chris c on Sun Sep 27 2015, 19:16

    Does anyone remember the Morris Minor 1 000 000? The millionth produced was lurid pink. Except there was more than one of them else it travelled widely, ISTR seeing them in several widely differing parts of the country.

    When I was little we had a Ford 8 with wire wheels, 1937 vintage, a handmedown from my father's family I think. My mother had another one back in the thirties, she was taught to drive by one of her boyfriends and that was that, no driving tests in those days.

    It probably spent most of the War years parked up (petrol rationing) but he kept it until 1957 when he px'd it for a Ford Popular - he was insistent that we wanted the old Roman Nose style like this, not the newfangled version.

    Mother bought a secondhand one the same, then upgraded to an Anglia, first a secondhand one then a new one. FOUR gears by crikey, even if first was unsynchronised and you had to double declutch, or stop, to engage it. By then my old man wasn't driving much, just to work and back, so he started inheriting her castoffs.

    She went for a Mk 1 Escort which was a hell of a lot easier to wash, and in due course I inherited the Anglia from my father but by then although it was still mechanically not too bad the body was rotting apart.

    I bought a secondhand [url=http://www.ado16.info/images/press_pictures/187977.jpg]Austin or Morris Traveller [/url]which was newer but also rotted apart. She bought a Mk 2 Escort which was more upmarket but mechanically unsound. Then when they were on holiday in Crete they rented a Datsun and when they returned chopped the Escort in for a Datsun Sunny which was dull as ditchwater but extremely reliable and economical.

    I went without a car for several years due to living in places with a plethora of buses and trains, then bought a yellow vintage Beetle which went for over 100 000 miles before disintegrating - in those days only Beetles and Volvos could do that sort of mileage. Chopped it in for a Fiat Panda which looked like a Range Rover had had puppies. Cheap and cheerful, functional - but knocked up in a shed by partially sighted morons.

    The only people who would give me anything resembling a decent px values was a Fiat garage and I ended up buying one of the first Fiat Unos which was an excellent car, I kept it for about 8 years. My second Uno was not built nearly as well.

    By then after my divorce I moved back in with my mother temporarily, she had a couple of Nissan Micras which weren't much fun to drive but were very reliable and economical, then graduated to a Mk 1 Clio a Mk 2 and then I bought the diesel Modus which I liked so much I kept it for 8 years. Very economical, well built, cost pennies to tax insure and service and did over 60 mpg, no wonder they stopped making them <fume> briefly owned a VW Golf Plus which friends wanted but couldn't afford at the time, so I said I'd buy it for them and keep it until they could. Nice to drive but was hard to get as much as 50mpg and stalled a lot, almost unheard of for diesels, I suspect this may be part of the emission test defeating software. So I bought the Quashqai which is even nicer to drive, nearly as economical as the Modus, and an ideal "country car" with our little lanes sometimes with grass growing in the middle, easy to pull off the road or back into a field for oncoming traffic. I confidently expect to keep this one until I die, longevity in cars is something that went away and has now come back into favour.

    My longevity is another matter altogether . . .


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    Post by Eddie on Sun Sep 27 2015, 19:43

    Another great post Chris thanks. I get the impression you are like me, prefer the past when life was simple and straightforward. I remember the first house we had, we could not believe our luck, it was a three bedroom council house on a very nice estate. It had a coal fired fire with a back boiler for heating the water. We could not afford to buy coal, but I had a friend that gave me old junked wooden pallets. I used to chop them up in the back garden and fire them up to heat water to bath the kids.

    Now our kids would be gibbering wrecks, if they lost there 60" plasma tv's, Mac computers, I phones and ludicrously expensive German cars and holidays in the bloody Maldives. Where did it all go wrong?


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    Post by chris c on Sun Sep 27 2015, 20:08

    Well yes and no, some things have improved but a hell of a lot of things have gotten worse AND NO-ONE CARES. I like *functional*.

    One side of my family was mostly small business owners/self-employed people. Curiously despite the diabetes/metabolic syndrome/insulin resistence there were millers and bakers. The other side of the family came from money but the old saying "riches to rags in three generations" is very true. I am the fourth generation. Grandpa on the other side was a builder and when asked to tender to work on the local council houses, when he saw the specification he was expected to work down to he refused the offer and buggered off down the British Legion for a few pints to recover.

    My folks married during the War and first rented a house, then bought one for £1900. They paid off the mortgage in a few years. When I moved my mother out she sold it for £400 000. That will never happen again.

    I spent most of my life renting and could never scrape together a deposit until my old man died and left me enough. When I bought my ex wife's house <sad grin> it was under £60 000, by the time the divorce was finalised it was worth around 1/4 million and I never saw a penny of that. That will never happen again.

    I invested some money and thanks to my Financial Advisor £20 grand after five years turned into £35 grand. That will never happen again.

    Yeah we had coal for a long time, no central heating and ice formed on the inside of the windows in winter. Some people would take a shovelful of fire out of the grate and carry it upstairs to heat the bedroom. We used hot water bottles, some made of stone. I don't miss that so much.
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    Post by Eddie on Sun Sep 27 2015, 20:47

    "We used hot water bottles"

    You had it easy lad. I remember going to bed with so many blankets and old overcoats over me I could hardly breath with the weight on me. It was nigh on impossible to roll over and I was still numb with the cold. If it got below minus ten my old man would fire up a paraffin stove, the fumes very near croaked us all and condensation dripping on our heads.


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    Post by Eddie on Sun Sep 27 2015, 21:05

    I guess I asked for that, but the bottom line, because we did not know any better we were happy. We did not think we were poor. We were always well fed (on real food) and worked hard. I could go back to all that no problem, in fact the way things are shaping up I may have to. affraid I cried because I had no shoes, until I saw a man who had no feet.


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    Yeah, I think it was the sixties when I first went to the Grammar School that I first learned that because we had a cheap car we were actually inferior people, and that you are judged not by what you do but by what you own.

    Probably one reason there were hippies and the rise of what we then called the Alternative Society.

    Curiously all the talk of "revolution" soon descended into petty squabbling about who was more right-on than the others. 

    Meanwhile in places like East Anglia, Shropshire, Herefordshire and similar places people quietly got on with life in a quietly anarchic way, being nice to each other, being interesting and trading between self-employed folks and small businesses without money being siphoned out of the local economy by capitalists.

    It's not all bad (and the food is amazing!)
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    Post by graham64 on Sun Sep 27 2015, 22:23

    @Eddie wrote:Another great post Chris thanks. I get the impression you are like me, prefer the past when life was simple and straightforward. I remember the first house we had, we could not believe our luck, it was a three bedroom council house on a very nice estate. It had a coal fired fire with a back boiler for heating the water. We could not afford to buy coal, but I had a friend that gave me old junked wooden pallets. I used to chop them up in the back garden and fire them up to heat water to bath the kids.

    Now our kids would be gibbering wrecks, if they lost there 60" plasma tv's, Mac computers, I phones and ludicrously expensive German cars and holidays in the bloody Maldives. Where did it all go wrong?

    You big southern jessie   Twisted Evil  you told me you had it hard as a child now we find out not only did you have a bathroom with a an indoor loo you also has a back boiler to heat the water  Shocked you don't know what hardship is lad, we had an outdoor loo (imagine that in winter) and a tin bath filled with pans of hot water. We did have coal though my brother and I had the task of trekking with a couple of sacks to the Wigan slag heaps to forage for coal a round trip of  around 20 miles, so don't give me your sob stories you lived in the lap of luxury compared with us downtrodden northerners


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    Post by chris c on Mon Sep 28 2015, 20:03

    Oh yeah I remember the outdoor netties oop in the northeast, and pissing in the sink to avoid going out in the dark.

    Our coal fire not only had a back boiler, it had swing-out potrests where you could put a saucepan full of stew to, well, stew over the fire. Luxury . . .
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    ‘Top Gear' Presenter Chris Evans ‘Struggles To Drive And Talk At The Same Time'

    The revamped ‘Top Gear’ is taking a little longer than expected to film according to reports, because presenter Chris Evans is finding it tricky to drive and talk at the same time.

    Chris’s reported lack of multi-tasking skills means that it can take up to ten attempts to perfect a shot as he keeps fluffing his lines.

    According to The Sun, it’s causing a headache for producers on the show, especially because his predecessors, Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond, could do it in one or two takes.

    You can read more here
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/06/top-gear-chris-evans_n_8920282.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D417607

    The show is currently slated to launch on the BBC in May 2016.
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    Post by Jan1 on Thu Jan 14 2016, 12:24

    'Top Gear' or 'Flop Gear' the problems carry on ...

    Perhaps the BBC should not be trying to continue this ?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/13/top-gear-chris-evans-star-guests_n_8968202.html

    ... and as one of the comments read "Frankly my dear I don't give a damn"
    I wonder how many of us actually do?

    All the best Jan

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