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    Fructose is this the Main Cause of Rise in Diabetes Cases

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    Post by graham64 on Fri Feb 06 2015, 22:07

    The harmful effects of fructose have recently gained a lot of attention. Fructose is a type of sugar found in fruits, vegetables and honey. Our body does not produce fructose; it is derived from what we eat which is then metabolized by the liver. Excess fructose in the body gets converted into fat. Fructose is mostly consumed as a sweetener like the high-fructose corn syrup that is added to food and fizzy drinks. (The Bittersweet Truth - High Fructose Corn Syrup)

    According to a latest report, published in the Mayo Clinic Proceedings, consumption of foods and beverages containing added sugars, particularly added fructose, is a major factor behind the dramatic rise in type-2 diabetes.

    Full story: http://food.ndtv.com/health/this-is-the-main-cause-of-rise-in-diabetes-cases-736390


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    Post by AliB on Sat Feb 07 2015, 01:14

    Undoubtedly contributory Graham, but I suspect it is more complex than just that.

    My personal feeling is that it is a cumulative amalgamation of multiple nutritional deficiencies caused by a high ingestion of food that takes far more away from the body than it gives.

    Whilst many processes need nutrition, the digestion is by far the greatest user.  The food we eat has to supply not only the nutritive elements needed for its own digestion but give the body a back up supply.  Whilst some natural foods, like fruits, vegetables and some animal products do give the body enough nutrition, much of the modern food out there robs out more than it gives.

    Modern wheat with its raft of at least 28 new and 'foreign' proteins, highly processed meat products, pasteurised dairy, carton 'fruit drinks' passed off as healthy, yes, products containing unnatural fructose, sucrose and any other 'ose, chemical additives, denatured products, etc., all put a huge burden on the digestive process.

    If people are constantly consuming food that is using up nutrition over and above what is needed, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that sooner or later the body is going to go into nutritional deficit.  It cannot make nutrition out of thin air!

    Not only are people eating very deficient food, they are also very often eating a lot of it.  They are constantly hungry because their bodies are crying out for nutrition and all they keep giving them is holograms, or 'food-like substances' as Michael Pollan puts it (he also quotes, "eat food, not too much, mainly plants...").

    It is pretty obvious that sooner or later something's gotta give.  It is the digestion that is struggling to deal with the barrage of plastic food, and it is the digestion that ends up suffering.  The lack of nutrition triggers the body into refusing to keep processing the garbage - which tends to mainly consist of carbs - so it basically just commits mutiny.....

    People who reverse their diabetes through diet, do so because they have finally dumped the garbage and are giving the body the nutrition it is craving.  Some may find they do well on LCHF, others may have to adopt a more plant-based diet depending on their body's individual needs, but whichever works, it is the removal of the garbage and addition of the nutrition that are the key elements.
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    Post by j on Sat Feb 07 2015, 06:13

    good subject matter graham , re your link
    new science [2012] has it that we do produce fructose from glucose [polyol pathways] and that T2 creates more than normal people
    17 minutes in to video
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    Post by Two Collies on Sat Feb 07 2015, 08:19

    Whilst I appreciate your updates, Graham, it would be useful if posters could appreciate the difference in fructose levels between ordinary fruit consumption and the cr@p of high fructose corn syrup which is not such a problem as in the US
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    Post by Eddie on Sat Feb 07 2015, 12:32

    @Two Collies wrote:Whilst I appreciate your updates, Graham, it would be useful if posters  could appreciate the difference in fructose levels between ordinary fruit consumption and the cr@p of high fructose corn syrup which is not such a problem as in the US

    That's true the EU are a lot tougher on what goes into food than the US authorities. High Fructose Corn Syrup metabolises in a totally different way, a real health hazard in the quantities being consumed in other parts of the world. Much the same as trans fats. Add the two together and you have a major reason for so much chronic disease. Moderate fruit consumption of course is a great health food, just watch out for BG spikes.


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    Post by j on Sat Feb 07 2015, 12:55

    I think the fructose in the corn syrup metabolises the same as any fructose. the glucose : fructose % is about 10% more fructose than sugar which is 50/50

    "One misconception about HFCS stems from its name. In fact, HFCS isn't that much different than standard, processed white sugar. A commonly used form of HFCS contains 45 percent glucose and 55 percent fructose [source: Warner]. White sugar is split 50-50 between glucose and fructose. HFCS is higher in fructose than conventional corn syrup, which is 100 percent glucose. But other types of HFCS, especially those used in non-soda products like certain breads, are 58 percent glucose and only 42 percent fructose [source: Warner]."
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    Post by Eddie on Sat Feb 07 2015, 13:09


    Check this out it explains all you need to know why HFCS is causing all the grief, this guy has been one of my guru's for a long time. First impression you may think he is a rapper, but this guy is very bright.


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    Post by j on Sat Feb 07 2015, 13:41

    the problem is it's cheap and sweet and they put it in everything and it's as good as a poison. but I wouldn't say its much different to sugar
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    Post by Eddie on Sat Feb 07 2015, 13:53

    @j wrote:the problem is it's cheap and sweet and they put it in everything and it's as good as a poison. but I wouldn't say its much different to sugar

    No argument from me J. But here is the killer, did you notice when he said "all of the fructose goes to the liver" that is different from say table sugar, (50% fructose) the sort of sugar that used to be in processed foods in many countries. The bottom line, sugar has no nutrients whatsoever, it's just pure calories, no one needs sugar FACT. One day people will look back, and see sugar as bad for health as tobacco, or illegal street drugs. Sugar and fructose from fruit in small amounts does non diabetics no harm, but people are eating far too much.

    I wrote this around six years ago. Politics and greed rears it's ugly head time and time again.

    The book called The Politics of Food was written some twenty years ago and highlights the extremely cosy relationship between Members of Parliament and the food industry. It was  staggering to learn, that in 1987, when the sugar industry was coming under attack, no less than 64 M.P.s were involved in the promotion of the sugar industry and its high sugar using customers. Michael Shersby M. P. was not only the Chairman of the Conservative backbench committee on food and drink, he was also the Director-General of the Sugar Bureau.


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    Post by j on Sat Feb 07 2015, 14:08

    honestly it's metabolised the same as sugar, the fructose of both goes to the liver.

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    Post by Eddie on Sat Feb 07 2015, 14:53

    @j wrote:honestly it's metabolised the same as sugar,  the fructose of both goes to the liver.


    Dr. Robert Lustig, Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology at the University of California, San Francisco, has been a pioneer in decoding sugar metabolism. His work has highlighted some major differences in how different sugars are broken down and used:

    After eating fructose, 100 percent of the metabolic burden rests on your liver. But with glucose, your liver has to break down only 20 percent.

    Every cell in your body, including your brain, utilizes glucose. Therefore, much of it is "burned up" immediately after you consume it. By contrast, fructose is turned into free fatty acids (FFAs), VLDL (the damaging form of cholesterol), and triglycerides, which get stored as fat.

    The fatty acids created during fructose metabolism accumulate as fat droplets in your liver and skeletal muscle tissues, causing insulin resistance and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD). Insulin resistance progresses to metabolic syndrome and type II diabetes.

    Fructose is the most lipophilic carbohydrate. In other words, fructose converts to activated glycerol (g-3-p), which is directly used to turn FFAs into triglycerides. The more g-3-p you have, the more fat you store. Glucose does not do this.
    When you eat 120 calories of glucose, less than one calorie is stored as fat. 120 calories of fructose results in 40 calories being stored as fat. Consuming fructose is essentially consuming fat!

    The metabolism of fructose by your liver creates a long list of waste products and toxins, including a large amount of uric acid, which drives up blood pressure and causes gout.

    Glucose suppresses the hunger hormone ghrelin and stimulates leptin, which suppresses your appetite. Fructose has no effect on ghrelin and interferes with your brain's communication with leptin, resulting in overeating.

    If anyone tries to tell you "sugar is sugar," they are way behind the times. As you can see, there are major differences in how your body processes fructose and glucose. The bottom line is: fructose leads to increased belly fat, insulin resistance, and metabolic syndrome -- not to mention the long list of chronic diseases that directly result. And eating sugar may accelerate the aging process itself.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/highfructose-corn-syrup-alters-human-metabolism.aspx


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    Post by j on Sat Feb 07 2015, 15:28

    are we talking across each other?
    I would have used the same source to show that sugar, 50% glucose 50% fructose and HFCS of 45% glucose and 55% fructose is metabolised the same way by the body...the fructose from both goes to the liver

    I don't know if you've seen it..this is Lustig follow on lecture to "sugar the bitter truth"

    Fat Chance: Fructose 2.0
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