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    Statins and Cholesterol

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    Mud Island Dweller
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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Mud Island Dweller on Mon Aug 18 2014, 07:53

    They say as l wont take statins l am at higher risk one of the q was do you take statins...and explosion kicked off.

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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Guest on Mon Aug 18 2014, 19:22

    Everyone is trying to make money ....

    I do,take statins ...was a 7 now I am a 3
    I am fine with this for now .... sunny 
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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by mo1905 on Tue Aug 19 2014, 08:34

    If statins are indicated and are working, that's great. It's when they're prescribed just as a precaution that is not always a good idea.


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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Scandichic on Tue Aug 19 2014, 10:34

    My total cholesterol is:
    HDL 1.3
    LDL 6
    Triglycerides 0.61
    Don't know how to work out ratios.  Question 
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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Paul1976 on Tue Aug 19 2014, 11:21

    @Scandichic wrote:My total cholesterol is:
    HDL 1.3
    LDL 6
    Triglycerides 0.61
    Don't know how to work out ratios.  Question 

    Hi Scandi!

    After entering your results into an online calculator it came back with the following results...

    Your Total Cholesterol/HDL ratio is: 5.83 - (preferably under 5.0, ideally under 3.5) AT RISK

    Your HDL/LDL ratio is: 0.217 - (preferably over 0.3, ideally over 0.4) AT RISK

    Your triglycerides/HDL ratio is: 1.074 - (preferably under 4, ideally under 2) IDEAL


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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Scandichic on Tue Aug 19 2014, 12:49

    @paul1976 wrote:
    @Scandichic wrote:My total cholesterol is:
    HDL 1.3
    LDL 6
    Triglycerides 0.61
    Don't know how to work out ratios.  Question 

    Hi Scandi!

    After entering your results into an online calculator it came back with the following results...

    Your Total Cholesterol/HDL ratio is: 5.83 - (preferably under 5.0, ideally under 3.5) AT RISK


    Your HDL/LDL ratio is: 0.217 - (preferably over 0.3, ideally over 0.4) AT RISK

    Your triglycerides/HDL ratio is: 1.074 - (preferably under 4, ideally under 2) IDEAL

    Many thanks to the gentleman in the top hat!
    Still don't want to take statins! Horrendous effect on memory and I'm blonde as it is so I need all the help I can get!
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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Indy51 on Tue Aug 19 2014, 13:08

    This article of Zoe Harcombe's has an interesting section on how they keep moving the goalposts on what is "normal" cholesterol:

    http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2014/06/diabetes-cholesterol-bp-normal-is-no-longer-normal/
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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by mo1905 on Tue Aug 19 2014, 14:08

    What would you consider acceptable levels Indy ? Must admit, my knowledge of cholesterol is pretty poor.


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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by Indy51 on Wed Aug 20 2014, 00:14

    @mo1905 wrote:What would you consider acceptable levels Indy ? Must admit, my knowledge of cholesterol is pretty poor.
    I'm not really bothered by cholesterol levels - I figure my body wants them at the level they are for a reason. More and more it seems that higher levels as we age are protective, so I'm not gonna stress about it. My trigs/HDL ratio is excellent and most experts seem to say that's the one that really counts.

    Part of my initial diagnosis was also hypothyroidism and high cholesterol is linked to that - my thyroid levels are fine now that I've lost weight and changed my diet. Mostly I just think the whole cholesterol thing is a red herring.


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    Re: Statins and Cholesterol

    Post by OldTech on Wed Aug 20 2014, 01:08

    @mo1905 wrote:I'm not really bothered by cholesterol levels - I figure my body wants them at the level they are for a reason. More and more it seems that higher levels as we age are protective, so I'm not gonna stress about it.

    I have come around to this way of thinking also. My goal is to manage my BG which causes glycation of not only hemoglobin*, but lipids and other cells and proteins as well and it is this glycation that may be the real source of heart disease. I also think that oxidation also plays a role so that it is important reduce polyunsaturated fats in your diet.  

    For me the most upsetting aspect of my cholesterol levels is that my doctor really really seems to believe that I should take a statin to lower my LDL. Since I do not like confrontation I find this upsetting. Yet, I still refused statins because I think that it was my 7 years on a low fat high carb 'heart healthy' diet coupled with the statins that led to my type II diagnosis.

    * For those of you who do not know HbA1c is a measure of the amount of glycation of hemoglobin.

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