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    Hi, new guy could do with some help

    Post by Moose on Mon Oct 06 2014, 15:11

    Hi, I've never been on one of these forums before so don't know what to expect, but there seems to be a lot of decent people from what I've read so hopefully you can offer me some advice.

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    Post by zand on Mon Oct 06 2014, 15:14

    Hi Moose welcome! Smile

    Tell us a bit about yourself. What do you need advice on?
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    Post by Paul1976 on Mon Oct 06 2014, 15:20

    Welcome to the forum Moose! Smile
    As Zand says above,tell us a bit about yourself,Type of diabetes,any particular diet such as Vegan,Vegetarian etc that you follow and also how you are managing with it all. Smile

    Between us all,I'm sure we can help if you have any problems or need advice. Smile

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    Post by Eddie on Mon Oct 06 2014, 15:41

    Welcome aboard Moose looking forward to more of your posts.

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    Post by sanguine on Mon Oct 06 2014, 15:46

    Hi Moose, welcome to the forum Very Happy
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    Post by Jan1 on Mon Oct 06 2014, 16:54

    @zand wrote:Hi Moose welcome!  Smile

    Tell us a bit about yourself.  What do you need advice on?

    Hi Moose - welcome to the Forum.  sunny

    As Zand and others have said ...... perhaps tell us a little about yourself, and feel free to ask questions.

    Looking forward to more posts from you.

    All the best Jan
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    Post by mo1905 on Mon Oct 06 2014, 17:03

    Welcome to the forum Moose.


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    Post by Andy12345 on Mon Oct 06 2014, 17:39

    hi, welcome Smile
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    Post by graham64 on Mon Oct 06 2014, 21:10

    @Moose wrote:Hi, I've never been on one of these forums before so don't know what to expect, but there seems to be a lot of decent people from what I've read so hopefully you can offer me some advice.

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    Hi Moose welcome on board hope we can be of help to you.

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    Post by mo1905 on Tue Oct 07 2014, 12:09

    Moose, was there anything you specifically required advice on ?


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    Post by Moose on Tue Oct 07 2014, 13:33

    There not really much to say about myself other that I've fallen on hard times since being discharged from the forces on medical grounds. I'm currently having to rely on foodbanks which is nuisance as they don't cater for diabetics and its not a lot.

    One question id what can I do to supplement my diet I've got pound a day to add to the foodback supplies.

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    @Moose wrote:There not really much to say about myself other that I've fallen on hard times since being discharged from the forces on medical grounds. I'm currently having to rely on foodbanks which is nuisance as they don't cater for diabetics and its not a lot.

    One question id what can I do to supplement my diet I've got pound a day to add to the foodback supplies.

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    Post by Paul1976 on Tue Oct 07 2014, 16:10

    @Moose wrote:There not really much to say about myself other that I've fallen on hard times since being discharged from the forces on medical grounds. I'm currently having to rely on foodbanks which is nuisance as they don't cater for diabetics and its not a lot.

    One question id what can I do to supplement my diet I've got pound a day to add to the foodback supplies.

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    So 7 pound a week in all to supplement your foodbank staples so I would say hit the market stalls and haggle for some cheap veg and check out the supermarkets at the end of the day when they reduce items such as meat and veggies that you can make a stew up that can last 3 days or so,value brand eggs for Frittatas to use with your veggies or with cheese to make ommelettes etc

    Can I ask why you've only got a pound a day for food though? I've been on sickness related benefits in the past and it's bloody hard but I had more than a quid a day? Are you not receiving the benefits you're entitled too perhaps? Might be worth contacting Welfare rights or the CAB.


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    Post by sanguine on Tue Oct 07 2014, 16:50

    What Paul said, plus make sure the welfare people are aware that you are diabetic and have specific dietary requirements. I don't know if that would make a difference but no harm in asking.
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    Post by Eddie on Tue Oct 07 2014, 17:46

    Moose are you getting any test strips free on prescription, and if so what sort of numbers are you seeing ?

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    Post by Jan1 on Tue Oct 07 2014, 18:27

    Hi Moose I can only speak as a non diabetic but I do live the LCHF lifestyle.

    Have you any food allergies? I ask because a great food is the humble egg and although free range are nice they are more expensive. However, most supermarkets have a 'basics' or 'essential' or 'smart price' range that are much cheaper and eggs provide good nutrition.

    So have you any food allergies?

    The other thing I would say is £7-00 a week does seem a very small amount to have 'spare' to spend on foods, of course I don't know your circumstances - but are you sure you are getting the correct benefits, an appointment with your local Citizens Advice Bureau may be advantageous.

    All the best Jan
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    Post by Moose on Wed Oct 08 2014, 12:55

    Paul wrote:So 7 pound a week in all to supplement your foodbank staples so I would say hit the market stalls and haggle for some cheap veg and check out the supermarkets at the end of the day when they reduce items such as meat and veggies that you can make a stew up that can last 3 days or so,value brand eggs for Frittatas to use with your veggies or with cheese to make ommelettes etc

    Can I ask why you've only got a pound a day for food though? I've been on sickness related benefits in the past and it's bloody hard but I had more than a quid a day? Are you not receiving the benefits you're entitled too perhaps? Might be worth contacting Welfare rights or the CAB.

    A few question that due to time I will answer in bits. After radioing through the need for a strategic air strike that got pasted on to the Americans. Who sent there entire air force along with several cruise missiles. You can image when they pulled me from the rubble, I was left with a few permanent injuries.

    I was on job seekers allowance then got put on income support then when the big shake up of the benefit system I was deemed fit by Atos to work.

    They told me if I can hobble around a room with a cane, I can hobble to a bus stop and catch one to work. So I got put back on Job seekers.

    I made various complains, but I get nietzschean replies back, along the lines of hard work and suffering builds character and what don't kill yeah makes you stronger.

    Part of my agreement with them is I have to attend the job centre 3 times  a week, I live 5 miles away so I have to buy a weekly bus ticket at a cost of £15.  

    When you take out utility bills, council tax that you now have to contribute towards and debt costs. There not much change out of  72.40 a week.

    I had my diabetes under control until Atos came calling. I'm all for work but give me a fighting chance.

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    Post by Paul1976 on Wed Oct 08 2014, 12:58

    I'm really sorry to hear this! Sad IMO ATOS are scum and have been responsible for a LOT of suffering amongst genuinely sick people.


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    Post by sanguine on Wed Oct 08 2014, 13:20

    Hi Moose, man you have been through it. I would go straight to my MP about this - write to him/her first and see when and where they hold constituency surgeries. Keep records of your various communications (especially the outrageous responses to your complaints). Maybe even consider a campaign via the local press.

    You don't deserve to be treated like this. No support from the services?
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    "After radioing through the need for a strategy air strike that got pasted on to the Americans. Who sent there entire air force along with several cruise missiles. You can image when they pulled me from the rubble, I was left with a few permanent injuries."

    So you were hit by a cruise missile ? And the US sent their ENTIRE Air Force ? I would maybe try to get referred back to your doc for some counselling. Good luck !


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    Post by Jan1 on Wed Oct 08 2014, 14:40

    Goodness you have experienced some hard times. Would the job centre allow you to visit once a week, some weeks, perhaps on the day when local papers were published to show job vacancies plus of course use their computer facilities? I don't know how strict they are on this - perhaps your Citizens Advice Bureau could help?

    Would organisations like The Royal British Legion or Help for Heroes be able to offer support and advice?

    With regard to cheaper food ideas obviously the cheapest eggs, cheap cuts of meat slow cooked for tenderness, mince, mis-shaped vegetables. Shopping at the end of the day to pick up any reduced bargains. Tinned vegetables, although you'd probably prefer fresh still have goodness in them.

    Have you found any recipes you may like to use?

    A good book is by Jack Monroe "A Girl Called Jack" she gives 100 delicious budget recipes, which may of course need altering slightly to suit carb levels, keep your eye in second hand shops you may be able to pick up a copy. Another good one is "Eat splendidly on a Limited Budget" which gives simple meal ideas. G Kilkkelly and Tony Kilkelly. Again look in Charity shops ...other wise it's Amazon but of course you'll have to have regard to cost.

    Hope some of this helps  sunny

    All the best Jan
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    Post by Moose on Wed Oct 08 2014, 16:34

    @Jan1 wrote:Goodness you have experienced some hard times. Would the job centre allow you to visit once a week, some weeks, perhaps on the day when local papers were published to show job vacancies plus of course use their computer facilities? I don't know how strict they are on this - perhaps your Citizens Advice Bureau could help?

    Would organisations like The Royal British Legion or Help for Heroes be able to offer support and advice?

    With regard to cheaper food ideas obviously the cheapest eggs, cheap cuts of meat slow cooked for tenderness, mince, mis-shaped vegetables. Shopping at the end of the day to pick up any reduced bargains. Tinned vegetables, although you'd probably prefer fresh still have goodness in them.

    Have you found any recipes you may like to use?

    A good book is by Jack Monroe "A Girl Called Jack" she gives 100 delicious budget recipes, which may of course need altering slightly to suit carb levels, keep your eye in second hand shops you may be able to pick up a copy. Another good one is "Eat splendidly on a Limited Budget" which gives simple meal ideas. G Kilkkelly and Tony Kilkelly. Again look in Charity shops ...other wise it's Amazon but of course you'll have to have regard to cost.

    Hope some of this helps  sunny

    All the best Jan

    I will gives you a overview of what my current diet is like.

    I was original eating 6 eggs a day, a whole roast chicken, a small  salad, small amount of vegetables and half a pint of whole milk. I varied it at the weekends but keep it simple and honest.

    NOW:

    What I get from the foodbank is fourteen day box made up of: -  14  X 40g packet of cornflakes, a carton of dehydrated skimmed milk. 14 X cans of soup, 14 x trays of  long life airline type meals, a packet of digestives, two cans of peaches, a small loaf of brown bread and a tea float.

    I did kicked up a stink last time I was there over the suitability of the food, especially the tasteless airline meals that are made up mainly of pasta and are only 400 calories a meal. Which also gives me rip roaring flatulence, I think I may have wheat intolerance.

    But was told by one of the foodbank front-line fodder that the meals have been pasted by a diabetic nurse specialist as suitable.

    I swap the Digestive Biscuits and bread with a neighbour for a some value butter. I get vitamin pills from my GP.

    I'm going to look in the library for that book "Eat splendidly on a Limited Budget"

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    Post by Jan1 on Wed Oct 08 2014, 21:51

    I think I'd still try to start my day with an egg, a lot more nutritious than cornflakes.....

    Do you have to go and pick up your food bank things every 14 days - it must be heavy with the cans of soup and peaches etc? When I've seen articles on the TV they just show a boxful of different goodies/foods, which looks more easy to lift and carry.

    Obviously when you do shop, keep looking out for as many cheaper priced lower carb foods as you can.

    All the best Jan
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    Post by AliB on Wed Oct 08 2014, 22:45

    Hiya. Welcome.

    Is it worth chatting to any fruit and veg shops, stalls, market traders to see if you could have any produce that is being discarded? Often Market traders at the end of the day will sell stuff off really cheap. Also, many supermarkets mark down towards the end off the day - between 4 & 5 pm. I've picked up fish and meat literally for pennies on occasion.

    Our local Morrisons is very good like that. Sometimes I've picked up fruit and veg for as little as 5p each, and meat/fish for less than 50p.

    Offal, if you like it, is usually quite cheap, liver, kidney, heart, etc. We had heart, steak and kidney stew cooked in a slow cooker with onion and a couple of Knorr beef stock cubes. There's enough for three of us for two meals. The two packs of heart were reduced to 45p each, the steak & kidney £1.25. Heart needs long slow cooking, but is good healthy nutritious meat.

    You have to kind of be in the right place at the right time, but I always manage to find something reduced when I go in.

    Sorry you are having such a tough time. I can sympathise. Although I broke my leg last year, it's healing well enough for me to walk on. Its not the getting around, it's the chronic fatigue and sleeplessness. I am fortunate in that I am my husband's carer and don't have to work externally, but if anything happened to him, I'd have the Government kicking me to work, and my health is just not reliable enough.
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    Post by Moose on Thu Oct 09 2014, 12:36

    @Jan1 wrote:I think I'd still try to start my day with an egg, a lot more nutritious than cornflakes.....

    Do you have to go and pick up your food bank things every 14 days - it must be heavy with the cans of soup and peaches etc? When I've seen articles on the TV they just show a boxful of different goodies/foods, which looks more easy to lift and carry.

    Obviously when you do shop, keep looking out for as many cheaper priced lower carb foods as you can.

    All the best Jan

    I've got a electric mobility scooter, also sometimes bring the stuff back in a man-trolley on the bus.

    I am supplementing my diet with poundland "eggs" that you use to be able to 12 for a pound now its down to 10 for a pound.

    I buy 3 lots and have 6 eggs in the morning instead of the cornflakes. I

    I'm eating them raw, 6 eggs in a large glass tumbler with a dash of milk, to save on electricity. The concern I have is are these eggs safe to eat raw?  They are sold unrefrigerated.

    Many years ago I was hospitalized with a strain of food poisoning after eating raw to dodgy goose eggs. I knocked me for six, my guts felt like I had been punched in them several times by some heavyweight boxer. and then there was the diarrhoea, which meant I need a drip to keep me hydrated.  

    However I believe all eggs now have to meet a standard before being sold in the Uk, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    I add about 20 grams of butter to the soups to beef them up in calories as I don't eat bread with them.

    Certainly my blood sugar levels have stopped inclining since I took this move.

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