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    Is the Glycemic index dead ?

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    graham64
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    Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by graham64 on Mon Mar 20 2017, 22:06

    I think we already know the answer but more conformation here:


    In conclusion – the glycemic index is a completely outdated metric on which to base your diet or your carbohydrate choices. There appears to be no correlation between the GI of a food and an individual’s PPGR; as a result, trying to design a diet around the GI of individual foods is about as useful as trying to programme your training based on the length of your little toe.

    An individual’s response to food is likely to be highly individualised. This needs to be recognised and accommodated for when it comes to nutrition recommendations – whether those be for the prevention of diabetes, reducing obesity, or sporting performance.

    http://shreddedbyscience.com/glycemic-index-dead/



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    Re: Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by Paul1976 on Mon Mar 20 2017, 23:14

    graham64 wrote:I think we already know the answer but more conformation here:


    In conclusion – the glycemic index is a completely outdated metric on which to base your diet or your carbohydrate choices. There appears to be no correlation between the GI of a food and an individual’s PPGR; as a result, trying to design a diet around the GI of individual foods is about as useful as trying to programme your training based on the length of your little toe.

    An individual’s response to food is likely to be highly individualised. This needs to be recognised and accommodated for when it comes to nutrition recommendations – whether those be for the prevention of diabetes, reducing obesity, or sporting performance.

    http://shreddedbyscience.com/glycemic-index-dead/


    Don't seem to remember many,if any,low GI success stories on the big forum either come to think of it apart from a few of the clique-Safe to say the old tub known as the 'S.S Low GI' has well and truly sunk forever and perhaps that's the reason the Cherub called it a day? Wink


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    Re: Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by Eddie on Tue Mar 21 2017, 07:17

    "Is the Glycemic index dead ?" Dead as a Dodo and so is the insulin index. Both dreamed up in an Australian Uni as a profit earner.


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    Re: Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by Derek on Tue Mar 21 2017, 12:01

    Eddie wrote:"Is the Glycemic index dead ?" Dead as a Dodo and so is the insulin index. Both dreamed up in an Australian Uni as a profit earner.


    What do you feel about Salim Yusuf's legume recommendation? Legumes have complex carbs as well as protein.
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    Re: Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by chris c on Tue Mar 21 2017, 23:44

    Like everything else, test to see what you can and can't get away with. I'm partial to a small dose of green split peas with bacon but I wouldn't get in a lift with me for a while afterwards (resistant starch). I grow runner beans which work OK and occasionally have red kidney beans in a chilli con carne but I suspect his recommendation is for people with less good protein sources.
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    Re: Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by Eddie on Sun Mar 26 2017, 19:15

    Derek wrote:
    Eddie wrote:"Is the Glycemic index dead ?" Dead as a Dodo and so is the insulin index. Both dreamed up in an Australian Uni as a profit earner.


    What do you feel about Salim Yusuf's legume recommendation? Legumes have complex carbs as well as protein.
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    Hi Derek

    Legumes are a good source of nutrients, not too carby but over my limit. When I went low carb I dumped everything over 10 grams of carb per hundred. At the end of the day it's a case of eat to your meter.


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    Re: Is the Glycemic index dead ?

    Post by chris c on Mon Mar 27 2017, 00:16

    Yes that's the big major advantage of diabetes over many other diseases, you can get almost instant feedback from a glucometer, and not only discover your own personal responses to things but how they change over a day, or even longer.

    There's a good case for loaning every diabetic a CGM when first diagnosed. Even better would be a pocket insulin meter, then you could track a vital health metric which currently you have to guestimate from glucose, lipids, BP, weight change etc.

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