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    Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by Jan1 on Sat Mar 18 2017, 19:04

    PeterJDickinson wrote:Jan

    No problem joining the conversation. I have no qualifications in this area - this is me reading through recipes and trying to pull things together and then testing myself the next day.

    I can't find the original recipe but this is the next version I am going to try, its very similar but with a reduced amount of currents in and no sultanas and raisins which was too much dried fruit. I might also switch round the parsnip and almond, so 200g almond and 100g parsnip.

    Spotted Dick / Christmas Pudding
    INGREDIENTS
    • 50g melted coconut oil
    • 100g ground almonds
    • 200g grated parsnip
    • Lemon zest
    • Orange zest
    • 1 egg
    • 75ml dry red wine
    • 2 scoops protein powder
    • 2 scoops vita powder
    • ¼ tsp ground nutmeg
    • 1 tsp ground mixed spice
    • ½ tsp ground cinnamon
    • 75g currents

    METHOD

    Mix all the dry ingredients together. Pour in the wine and coconut oil and then mix in the egg. Give it all a good stir and transfer into to pint bowl.

    Cover in baking paper and tie with string.

    Place in a steamer and steam for 1 hour.

    Many thanks for sharing the recipe idea.

    As I said earlier, I am not diabetic but of course husband Eddie is ... so what we eat, and what his meter says is very relevant!

    I know many do like to use protein/whey type powder in their recipes, and the recipe you give does perhaps look like being nearer to a traditional Christmas Pudding, especially as its steamed.

    One we like and have been enjoying since about 2012, although it may have been 2013, the years pass by so quickly is this one


    Low Carb Christmas Pudding

    Ingredients:
    100 grams ground almond flour
    1 teaspoon baking powder
    2 large eggs
    1 tablespoon of melted butter
    2 tablespoons of double cream
    100 grams of lowcarb thawed frozen fruits. Blueberries, blackcurrants and strawberries.
    60 grams of 90-95% cocoa dark chocolate
    Two tea spoons of cocoa powder
    One large shot of brandy
    A handful of almond flakes and broken walnuts
    Extra thick cream

    Method:
    Mix all dry ingredients in a bowl.
    Melt the butter, I use a Pyrex jug, add the eggs, cream, and fruit. Add the dry ingredients and mix. Pour into a medium size Pyrex mixing bowl. Microwave in a 700watt for 5 minutes. Turn out upside-down onto five layers of kitchen paper on a flat plate. Zap in micro-wave for a further two minutes. Melt the chocolate in a heat proof bowl standing in a saucepan of boiling water. Pour over pudding and serve with a scoop of extra thick cream. Serves four.

    Give it a try and see what you think.

    We all have slightly different tastes, tolerances etc.

    Another nice recipe for a pudding is this 'chocolate sponge pudding'
    http://lowcarbdiabetic.forumotion.co.uk/t473-chocolate-sponge-pudding?highlight=chocolate+pudding

    All the best Jan
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by PeterJDickinson on Sat Mar 18 2017, 19:10

    Jan

    Brilliant, very many thanks - I am keen to build a library of recipes that can be enjoyed by the whole family and guests and so will give it a try.

    Best wishes

    Peter
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by chris c on Sun Mar 19 2017, 20:29

    Usually I just have an ordinary Christmas pud, a small portion, with lots of clotted cream, ground flaxseed and brandy.

    My mother cooked Christmas dinner for over 60 years. When we first moved here two aunts and an uncle lived a few villages away and we used to go to them. This gave her a break (well she was nearly ninety).

    One year I tried an experiment in timing, I had the dinner with even a small portion of roast spud and parsnip, then immediately went for a walk. When I came back I had the pudding followed by a stroll round the common, and some while later the cake and another stroll. Barely went over 6.

    One year I took a wrong turn on my walk, ended up in the wrong village and had a route march back, which actually drove me hypo.

    Due to my trick pancreas which can still produce a lot of insulin but just not at a high rate, exercise immediately after eating, when it is putting out as much insulin as it can, will rapidly knock down a spike, a good ploy when eating out. An hour after the meal and the same walk will barely budge my BG up or down.

    Peter, this is also something you might experiment with. My theory is that I can actually overenhance the uptake of glucose due to the combination of insulin-driven and insulin-independent muscle glucose transporters all coming online at once.

    In retrospect I believe the days when I would faint, or feel faint, mainly in assembly, was on days when I had cereal for breakfast and then walked to school, and the days when I didn't were when I had bacon, and/or a lift.
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by PeterJDickinson on Mon Mar 20 2017, 09:07

    Chris

    Very many thanks. I have now bought and am reading Bernsteins' book on Diabetes Solutions. Its an interesting read.

    Exercise is certainly key to managing diabetes thats for sure. I have now read quite a few books on reversing diabetes - there are some good ones out there - but one thing that is missing so far is the inclusion of regular exercise.

    Like you I am experimenting but it would be nice to know what has worked for others.

    - What exercise to do
    - How long to do it
    - How frequently (Times per week)
    - What intensity (Aerobic | Anaerobic)
    - Maximum heart rate (220-age. Is this really true for an older fitter person - my max is now 163, I am not out of breath at that rate!)

    I use a FitBit which is really useful as I can see what my max heart was and whether it thinks I was in the fat burn zone or not.

    Probably, the next stage is to starting tracking my food as I would like to drop a few percentage points in body fat (given up with BMI as I would need to lose muscle mass to get down to my correct BMI). Currently at 22.8% body fat content and would like to get to 18% as that is lower end of average and a few percentage points above what one author believes to be the ideal. (6 pack is 10% I believe.)

    Best wishes

    Peter
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by chris c on Tue Mar 21 2017, 23:34

    A Roger Unger paper looking at glucagon

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3248306/

    As with diet the key is to try things and test regularly until you get predictable enough results.

    I've always been a great walker, up until my thyroid blew up and took out my leg arteries. I got back up to about five miles, with pauses, and currently back to 2 - 3 miles including about a mile before I first need to stop or slow down, albeit much slower than I used to be.

    Mark Sisson

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com

    says "Move slowly a lot, run very fast occasionally, lift heavy things"

    Crossfit has some more intense ideas. The one thing that doesn't work so well is naturally what the mainstream recommends - loads of cardio, which makes most people go face down in the carbs afterwards, and jogging which destroys knees after some years. Basically growing muscle is a good sink for glucose, using it also reduces IR and translocates more GLUT 4 receptors to the cell surfaces for some hours afterwards.

    A good plan to carry glucose tabs in case you overdo it and go hypo. I used to do a lot of everyday things like gardening and housework, and fit in stuff like treating a watering can as a kettlebell and carrying shopping, and once a car battery, back from the shops. Not so much now Sad
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by PeterJDickinson on Wed Mar 22 2017, 07:33

    Chris

    Very many thanks - the Roger Unger is very in-depth and so have printed it off to read later.

    There are some great ideas on Mark Sisson's site. My daughter is in to cross-fit and although its not for me, there are some good principles that can be borrowed for BG management.

    Thanks again for sharing, I hope this conversation is of help to others in the forum.

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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by Jan1 on Sun Mar 26 2017, 12:20

    "Thanks again for sharing, I hope this conversation is of help to others in the forum."

    Sharing our thoughts, information and experience is of great help to us all ...
    You sometimes never know who you may help ...  

    "Bernsteins' book on Diabetes Solutions. Its an interesting read."

    It was the first book Eddie bought and it's still on our book shelf ...

    All the best Jan
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by chris c on Sun Mar 26 2017, 23:55

    I'm leaving mine to my doctor in my will, along with Taubes, Gretchen Becker, Michael Eades etc.
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by PeterJDickinson on Mon Mar 27 2017, 08:01

    Good idea, I have volunteered to my local GP to talk to any groups of students they get in as if we can't change NICE then we might be able to change the new incoming troops!
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by chris c on Wed Mar 29 2017, 22:00

    Be interesting to see how you get on!

    I recall someone (but can't remember where, I think the UK) who did so spectacularly well she was invited to address a group of new diabetics and "Health Care Professionals".

    After she had agreed, she was then told that "of course" she couldn't actually tell them what she had done, ie LCHF, but must explain she had made the improvements using a high carb diet.

    Naturally she refused so the invitation was withdrawn.

    Meanwhile some interesting posts by someone with another form of weird diabetes have been added here

    https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2017/02/05/the-case-against-sugar/

    He appears to be a genuine MODY unlike me and not a few others who have some form of "pseudo-MODY" including IR. Always interesting to see oddballs with interesting ideas.
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    Re: Type 1, Type 2 - no idea

    Post by PeterJDickinson on Wed Mar 29 2017, 22:32

    Chris

    Very many thanks. Yes the deal would have to be that I told it as it is. To be fair there are now a number of books by practitioners on the approach and of course there is Prof Taylors work at Newcastle University and it's not without substance.

    Many thanks for the link

    Best wishes

    Peter

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