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    Great news the Bonkers one lives!

    Post by Eddie on Thu Dec 03 2015, 13:11

    After a period away from the flog, I was beginning to worry about my old nemesis the legendary Sid Bonkers, but he has returned. Although Sid has stated on numerous occasions he lost a shed load of weight by low carbing, he has been the enforcer in chief for the low carb antis for years. You see Sid he is paranoid about the consumption of fats, and says so at every opportunity. This is understandable, for years we were told dietary fats were killers. I also fell for arguably the biggest dietary lie in history, as did countless millions around the world. What we know now is that natural fats are health friendly, in fact we would die on a fat free diet. We now know it was the man made Frankenstein fats known as trans fats that did all the damage. The fact is the antis lost the carb wars years ago, but continue to muddy the waters with the fats will kill ya chant.

    Anyone who can think straight, knows if you low carb say 50 grams of carbs per day from a typical used to be 300 plus, they have to be replaced with another food group. A reduction of 250 grams of carb per day is around a 1000 calories. Most people need to replace the lost calories once weight loss has been achieved, but possibly not as high as the total calorie count, when weight was a problem and type two diagnosis time.

    What do we replace these lost calories with? you only have two other main food groups fat or protein. Good quality protein is expensive and it is known up to 50% of consumed protein can turn to glucose via gluconeogenesis (hence no such thing as an essential carbohydrate) Also, there are limits as to how much protein we want to eat.

    I am not calling Sid a liar, but he is being very economical with the truth, because he has been an invalid for many years. He stated years ago he had to give up fishing and could not even walk his dog some days. I reckon it would be more honest of him when trying to confuse newbies and the poorly advised, if he stated why he can reduce carbs and stay low fat. Those of us who work and/or live active lives need calories and they have got to come from somewhere.

    From Sid

    "LCHF doesnt necessarily have to mean adding extra fat to your diet, simply by reducing the carbohydrates in your diet will automatically increase the percentage of fat in your diet.

    I lost 4 stone in around 10 -11 months following a very strict reduced carb diet, for the first 6 months I eat around 60g of carbs and then increased them as I lost weight.

    At no time did I increase the fat in my diet and I never have but I have lost another stone and maintained that weight loss for 6 years now.

    Lots of lchf enthusiast talk about drinking cream and bullet proof coffee with oil and butter and adding etra fat at every opportunity but I never felt the need to add fat and never have.

    I still eat a reduced carb diet but as I am now well controlled I dont count them and probably eat between 100 and 160 a day now sometimes probably more as I dont believe the odd higher carb day does me any harm at all, but I do stress that I am well controlled now and that I was VERY strict with my diet while I was getting to this state."


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    Re: Great news the Bonkers one lives!

    Post by Paul1976 on Thu Dec 03 2015, 21:15

    And.....................................Duggie is back on the DCUK forum with tales of the deep blue sea! woot  (Although it is rumoured that he never really left of course! Wink ) Just a flying visit or is the forum in for more sat fat bashing alongside extolling the virtues of the dreaded 1Kcal spray oil? jimlad

    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/still-going-strong.88656/


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    Re: Great news the Bonkers one lives!

    Post by Eddie on Thu Dec 03 2015, 22:04

    So, douglas99 aka Neptune God of the seas returns to the forum! Nice to see Zand welcoming him back. To be frank, I don't know watch she sees in him.



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    Post by Angry of Leamington Spa on Thu Dec 03 2015, 22:34

    This filth is totally outrageous. Is this a diabetes forum or a knocking shop. Good grief my wife nearly had a thrombi when she witnessed this ghastly obscenity. I will be writing to my MP first thing in the morning. You scoundrels won't get away with this mark my words.
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    Post by Paul1976 on Thu Dec 03 2015, 23:01

    Angry of Leamington Spa wrote:This filth is totally outrageous. Is this a diabetes forum or a knocking shop. Good grief my wife nearly had a thrombi when she witnessed this ghastly obscenity. I will be writing to my MP first thing in the morning. You scoundrels won't get away with this mark my words.

    No need to be bashful Mr Angry of Leamington Spar! Wink Everything in moderation I reckon including the odd stonker here and there which is a another benefit of the low carb diet! cheers


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    Re: Great news the Bonkers one lives!

    Post by graham64 on Thu Dec 03 2015, 23:25

    Paul1976 wrote:
    Angry of Leamington Spa wrote:This filth is totally outrageous. Is this a diabetes forum or a knocking shop. Good grief my wife nearly had a thrombi when she witnessed this ghastly obscenity. I will be writing to my MP first thing in the morning. You scoundrels won't get away with this mark my words.

    No need to be bashful Mr Angry of Leamington Spar! Wink Everything in moderation I reckon including the odd stonker here and there which is a another benefit of the low carb diet! cheers

    I would suspect Angry of Leamington Spa is a member of the Mary Whitehouse Appreciation Society as such I can appreciate the objection to the lurid post by EDdie, that said as Paul says the benefits of LC in respect of Erectile Dysfunction (ED) far outweigh the complaint put forward  Wink


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    Proving the LowCarb sceptics wrong for over nine years,

    Not all cherubs are Angels  Wink nor all diabetics Bonkers  Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Angry of Leamington Spa on Thu Dec 03 2015, 23:34

    Paul1976 wrote:
    Angry of Leamington Spa wrote:This filth is totally outrageous. Is this a diabetes forum or a knocking shop. Good grief my wife nearly had a thrombi when she witnessed this ghastly obscenity. I will be writing to my MP first thing in the morning. You scoundrels won't get away with this mark my words.

    No need to be bashful Mr Angry of Leamington Spar! Wink Everything in moderation I reckon including the odd stonker here and there which is a another benefit of the low carb diet! cheers

    Odd stonker-odd stonker have you taken leave of your senses man. I am fully aware of the fact uncontrolled diabetes can lead to erectile dysfunction. The illustration above borders on pornography and has no place on a health forum. Cynthia has retired to her bed with a cold compress, and is very far from being amused.
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    Post by graham64 on Thu Dec 03 2015, 23:55

    Do I smell a troll  torchesandpitchforks


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    Post by Paul1976 on Thu Dec 03 2015, 23:56

    graham64 wrote:Do I smell a troll  torchesandpitchforks

    Surely not! Wink This forums record of being troll free is second to none!


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    Post by Paul1976 on Fri Dec 04 2015, 00:00

    Angry of Leamington Spa wrote:
    Paul1976 wrote:
    Angry of Leamington Spa wrote:This filth is totally outrageous. Is this a diabetes forum or a knocking shop. Good grief my wife nearly had a thrombi when she witnessed this ghastly obscenity. I will be writing to my MP first thing in the morning. You scoundrels won't get away with this mark my words.

    No need to be bashful Mr Angry of Leamington Spar! Wink Everything in moderation I reckon including the odd stonker here and there which is a another benefit of the low carb diet! cheers

    Odd stonker-odd stonker have you taken leave of your senses man. I am fully aware of the fact uncontrolled diabetes can lead to erectile dysfunction. The illustration above borders on pornography and has no place on a health forum. Cynthia has retired to her bed with a cold compress, and is very far from being amused.

    I do hope I can appeal to your good nature and beg ask that you won't submit an abuse report to the "Admin" of this forum as no-one knows who they are but they're a tyrant and I really can't face another whipping! bitenails


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    Post by Angry of Leamington Spa on Fri Dec 04 2015, 00:14

    graham64 wrote:Do I smell a troll  torchesandpitchforks

    I am beginning to understand this abominable place.  Anyone who does not agree with low carb fat guzzling reprobates is a troll. Have you ever considered the damage you are doing to my portfolio of pharmaceutical stock holdings?

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