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    NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by graham64 on Wed Sep 16 2015, 23:03

    In the UK, current 2015 NHS diabetes diet advice is that there is no special diet for people with diabetes.

    Many people with diabetes focus on the carbohydrate content of their meals and prefer a low-carb diet for tight blood glucose level control.

    The NHS (and Diabetes UK) recommend a healthy, balanced diet that is low in fat, sugar and salt and contain a high level of fresh fruit and vegetables.

    NHS dieticians' advice

    Earlier this year, top NHS dieticians were reported as providing the following tips for people with diabetes.

    Together, these can be said to sum up the NHS approach to controlling type 2 diabetes with diet.


    • Eat plenty of starchy carbohydrates
    • Eat carbohydrate foods with a low GI
    • Avoid high GI foods, especially between meals
    • Eat regular meals and healthy snacks
    • Don’t miss breakfast
    • Don’t skip meals
    • Avoid all unhealthy/hydrogenated fats
    • Choose low-fat dairy products
    • Check food labels
    • Choose lean meat and remove fat and skin
    • Avoid fried and fast food, and baked goods
    • Keep hydrated and avoid binge-drinking


    Base meals upon starchy carbohydrate

    The NHS advises people, including those with diabetes, to base meals around food with starchy carbohydrate such as:


    • Potatoes
    • Cereals
    • Pasta
    • Rice
    • Bread


    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/

    As Sid's in complete denial about the eat plenty of starchy carbs promoted by the NHS he should take DCUK to task (rant) over this article  starwars


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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by Eddie on Thu Sep 17 2015, 12:09


    I was thinking this morning we should cut Sid some slack   wtf  then I woke up.


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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by chris c on Thu Sep 17 2015, 21:49

    Yes, "eat the same healthy diet recommended for the rest of the population"
    which just happens to have caused the "epidemics" of diabetes, obesity and many other metabolic diseases in the first place.

    I suspect giving the GPs their huge pay rises a few years ago was intended to buy their integrity. It worked Sad
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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by Dillinger on Fri Sep 18 2015, 11:25

    Hello, been away for ages; but I love this post from the US on the ADA asking for diabetic's blood sugars and unleashing a tidal wave of people saying what preposterous advice the ADA gives on managing bloods.

    Everyone who is hitting normal blood sugars is following Bernstein it seems.

    There's a link to the ADA site in this;

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230675

    It would be funny if it weren't so sad...

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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by Paul1976 on Fri Sep 18 2015, 12:55

    This bit stood out...

    "I have just one question in light of the above: How does this not constitute intentional malpractice and in fact a recommendation, in diabetics, that they literally poison themselves and then take an "antidote" -- all inuring to the profit of both the physicians who wind up treating the results and the pharmaceutical industry?

    And, by the way, where are the damned cops -- and handcuffs -- to slap on both the doctors and everyone else in the medical and pharmaceutical industry involved in this crap?

    How many people have we shoved in the hole with their ruinous "recommendations" and how many billions of dollars have those in this industry siphoned off from these people who have suffered unnecessarily?"

    Damned right!!!!


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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by Eddie on Fri Sep 18 2015, 13:25

    @Paul1976 wrote:This bit stood out...

    "I have just one question in light of the above: How does this not constitute intentional malpractice and in fact a recommendation, in diabetics, that they literally poison themselves and then take an "antidote" -- all inuring to the profit of both the physicians who wind up treating the results and the pharmaceutical industry?

    And, by the way, where are the damned cops -- and handcuffs -- to slap on both the doctors and everyone else in the medical and pharmaceutical industry involved in this crap?

    How many people have we shoved in the hole with their ruinous "recommendations" and how many billions of dollars have those in this industry siphoned off from these people who have suffered unnecessarily?"

    Damned right!!!!

    Luke 23:34 Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"

    But we know they do know what they do, if we all know they must know. They see the never ending gruesome diabetes stats. published year after year by the NHS. They see the new science being published and the words and experience of the ever increasing medical professionals who support the low carb cause. These brave ones, that stick their heads above the parapet of failed bent science and dietary illiteracy. They see the never ending anecdotal evidence of countless diabetics all over the world.

    But they remain silent, they stick to the failed guidelines, they have forgotten why they entered the medical profession, they have become assassins, they kill and maim for money. They take 'The Thirty Pieces Of Silver' and kiss the corrupt hands that feed, the corrupt hands of big pharma and junk food.


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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by chris c on Fri Sep 18 2015, 18:20

    What's beyond astonishing is that on their very own forum the success stories have been coming thick and fast for at least a DECADE now.

    One militant low carb anti from usenet was banned at least three times from their forum. Another who championed the ADA Diet elsewhere never posted there, probably because he knew he would be roasted.

    When John Buse was in charge they slightly relaxed their views on low carb - that was back in 2008. I assume the backlash from their sponsors was what stopped them taking it any further.

    Have any of you seen this? Someone at the ADA actually commissioned a low carb cook book but by the time it was written there had presumably been a counter-coup.
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    Re: NHS Diet Advice for Diabetes

    Post by graham64 on Fri Sep 18 2015, 21:53

    @Dillinger wrote:Hello, been away for ages; but I love this post from the US on the ADA asking for diabetic's blood sugars and unleashing a tidal wave of people saying what preposterous advice the ADA gives on managing bloods.

    Everyone who is hitting normal blood sugars is following Bernstein it seems.

    There's a link to the ADA site in this;

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230675

    It would be funny if it weren't so sad...

    Dillinger

    Thanks Al but the ADA wouldn't want to upset their corporate sponsors "The Banting Circle Elite" by advocating a diet that would minimise medications  now would they  Rolling Eyes


    • AstraZeneca
    • Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals
    • Eli Lilly
    • GlaxoSmithKline
    • Janssen Pharmaceuticals
    • Johnson & Johnson Diabetes Solutions
    • Merck
    • Novo Nordisk
    • Pfizer
    • Sanofi


    http://www.diabetes.org/



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