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    Re: the most nutrient dense foods for different goals

    Post by martykendall on Tue Sep 15 2015, 00:44

    Looking back on the original FII data...

    The pasta has 49g carbs, 11g fibre, 11g protein and 2g of fat. insulin calculator (https://jscalc.io/calc/uCic91x1y9p6tTo1) gives 68.5% insulinogenic calores, 2 units of insulin.

    The All Bran has 43g carbs, 14g fibre, 12g protein and 3g fat. insulin calculator gives 57.8% insulinogenic calories, 1.3 units of insulin.

    The white fish had 0g carbs, 56g protein, 0g fibre, 1g of fat. insulin calculator gives 53.8% insulinogenic calories, 1.4 units of insulin.

    The insulin response from the pasta is certainly lower than you'd expect however this could be due to the fact that it was done in 1997 and the more recent data is more refined. With 130 data FII points these sort of anomalies get averaged out by the trend.

    Because the protein digests more slowly and the GNG is more of a demand than a supply driven process the high protein white fish sill requires a good chunk of insulin. If she doesn't dose with insulin up front for this she will end up having to chase down the BG with more insulin later. It's a common experience for type 1s, particularly if you've had it for a while and have negligible pancreatic function.
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    Re: the most nutrient dense foods for different goals

    Post by Eddie on Tue Sep 15 2015, 01:09

    Marty give this lark up, clearly your future lies in politics. A million words that say nothing, never ever a giving straight answer. According to this, according to that, but never ever anything that comes close to a straight answer.

    "Looking back on the original FII data..."

    It is full of holes, as is the GI index. You have gone down a dead end, and cannot turn back, I am open to any suggestions to improve BG control. But when I here pasta has less effect on a diabetics BG numbers than plain fish, I know it cannot be for real. When I here cereals have less effect on a diabetics BG numbers than beef, I know it is a complete crock. This goes against every experience from the many diabetics I know, and every informed medical professional from Richard Bernstein to Tim Noakes. Carbs require more insulin than proteins to control BG numbers.

    Please keep posting here, but be aware, I believe the greatest cause of diabetics failure and the gruesome situation many find themselves in, is misinformation. And you are are misinforming people. The fact that you have avoided every question I have asked confirms to me, you know what you do. What your agenda is remains to be seen, but time always outs.


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    Re: the most nutrient dense foods for different goals

    Post by martykendall on Tue Sep 15 2015, 09:04

    Eddie

    You may be interested in this review of how different type 1s deal with insulin dosing for protein... https://optimisingnutrition.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/insulin-dosing-options-for-type-1-diabetes/ .

    These are the techniques being used by the type 1s that I know are getting the most spectacular blood glucose outcomes... https://optimisingnutrition.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/standing-on-the-shoulders-of-giants/

    We're just trying to follow in their footsteps.

    Cheers

    Marty

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